Giving away my Kindle 4 - Page 2

weatherman · 10-22-2012, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Kindle books are licensed for your personal use only; unless a book is in the public domain, what you describe would be a breach of copyright law.

I disagree; if a person has finished reading the book and doesn't download it again on a new Kindle, giving a Kindle loaded with books is no more a copyright violation than giving a physical book would be.

Also, don't confuse "license" for copyright; if a person violates the user license for digital content, they haven't broken any law.

silverraven · 10-22-2012, 08:44 AM

Wow, thanks for all the information! I am always amazed when I come to mobile read to find out how much I DON'T know about my e readers!!
I did a factory reset, and de-registered it from the web site. So when it turned back on it was at the beginning of the set up process. I just turned it off and put it in the box. I'm not sure when I will get it up to Bristol, hopefully in the next couple weeks.
Thanks for the woolie worm link Blossom! I haven't seen any down here yet this year, but I will keep my eye out for one. I'd like to know what kind of winter we are in for!
S

SampleAndy · 10-25-2012, 09:19 PM

(sigh)
So much to learn, especially when you don't know enough to know what questions to ask.
I currently have three Kindles, the K4 I bought from Amazon, the K3 I bought on eBay, and the K3 I bought on eBay with a broken screen and fixed.

From experience, I would guess that books that are downloaded from Amazon are registered to that particular device, and not your account. That explains why I can read books that were left on the used Kindles, but have problems reading some of the free books that I tried to copy from one to another using Calibre or Explorer. Is that correct?

Why would a free, Public Domain book have DRM on it? On SOME of the free books I got from Amazon, I get the message, "This item cannot be opened because it is licensed to a different user. Delete the item and download it from your Archived Items or purchase a copy from the Kindle Store."

pidgeon92 · 10-25-2012, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SampleAndy

(sigh)
From experience, I would guess that books that are downloaded from Amazon are registered to that particular device, and not your account. That explains why I can read books that were left on the used Kindles, but have problems reading some of the free books that I tried to copy from one to another using Calibre or Explorer. Is that correct?

Correct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SampleAndy

(sigh)
Why would a free, Public Domain book have DRM on it? On SOME of the free books I got from Amazon, I get the message, "This item cannot be opened because it is licensed to a different user. Delete the item and download it from your Archived Items or purchase a copy from the Kindle Store."

Free or not, if the person/entity that uploaded the book to Amazon requested DRM on the ebook, then it will have DRM.

Tarana · 11-03-2012, 06:07 PM

Where are you guys getting these titles for the various kindles? Kindle4 is a what?

I have a Kindle Keyboard and the 6" kindle w/ads. What models are those?

soulfuldog · 11-03-2012, 06:22 PM

It's related to two things. The model numbers Amazon originally gave their Kindles until they started naming them instead (up to Kindle 3, which was renamed the Kindle Keyboard when they released the basic Kindle (Kindle 4), which are the two you have). And also the firmware that they run, although that worked ok up until the release of the Kindle Paperwhite, as it uses a version of the 5.x firmware that the Kindle Touch also uses...

Kindle 1
Kindle 2
Kindle 3 - now Kindle Keyboard
Kindle 4 - either K4S or K4B depending on whether it's the original silver or the newer black version
Kindle 5 - Kindle Touch
Kindle 6 - Kindle Fire
Kindle PW

Oh, and I forgot there is also the Kindle DX (10" screen), which along with the K1 & K2, is no longer sold by Amazon (edit again, and neither is the Kindle Touch).

Barbara1955 · 11-03-2012, 06:50 PM

Leaving the ebooks not any different then the libray loading ereaders with ebooks then lending them out.

Blossom · 11-03-2012, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by l_macd

Oh, and I forgot there is also the Kindle DX (10" screen), which along with the K1 & K2, is no longer sold by Amazon (edit again, and neither is the Kindle Touch).

There is also the DXG which looks like a Kindle Keyboard but with a bigger screen.

Blossom · 11-03-2012, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarana

Where are you guys getting these titles for the various kindles? Kindle4 is a what?

I have a Kindle Keyboard and the 6" kindle w/ads. What models are those?

The Kindle 4 is the $69 Kindle. We call it a K4. If it's the silver bezel it's a K4S if it's the new one with a black bezel it's a K4B.

10-25-2012, 09:19 PM	#18
SampleAndy Addict Posts: 271 Karma: 644344 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA Device: KPW, KFire HD, KFire, KTD 3g, KT, K4B, K4S, K3g, K3g SO, K2, K1	(sigh) So much to learn, especially when you don't know enough to know what questions to ask. I currently have three Kindles, the K4 I bought from Amazon, the K3 I bought on eBay, and the K3 I bought on eBay with a broken screen and fixed. From experience, I would guess that books that are downloaded from Amazon are registered to that particular device, and not your account. That explains why I can read books that were left on the used Kindles, but have problems reading some of the free books that I tried to copy from one to another using Calibre or Explorer. Is that correct? Why would a free, Public Domain book have DRM on it? On SOME of the free books I got from Amazon, I get the message, "This item cannot be opened because it is licensed to a different user. Delete the item and download it from your Archived Items or purchase a copy from the Kindle Store." Last edited by SampleAndy; 10-25-2012 at 09:21 PM. Reason: added white space

11-03-2012, 06:22 PM	#21
soulfuldog I ♥ Calibre Posts: 2,073 Karma: 5678911 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis, Voyage, Sony PRS-350, Hudl2	It's related to two things. The model numbers Amazon originally gave their Kindles until they started naming them instead (up to Kindle 3, which was renamed the Kindle Keyboard when they released the basic Kindle (Kindle 4), which are the two you have). And also the firmware that they run, although that worked ok up until the release of the Kindle Paperwhite, as it uses a version of the 5.x firmware that the Kindle Touch also uses... Kindle 1 Kindle 2 Kindle 3 - now Kindle Keyboard Kindle 4 - either K4S or K4B depending on whether it's the original silver or the newer black version Kindle 5 - Kindle Touch Kindle 6 - Kindle Fire Kindle PW Oh, and I forgot there is also the Kindle DX (10" screen), which along with the K1 & K2, is no longer sold by Amazon (edit again, and neither is the Kindle Touch). Last edited by soulfuldog; 11-03-2012 at 06:29 PM.

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10-22-2012, 08:44 AM	#17
silverraven Guru Posts: 970 Karma: 3438612 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: Kindle Voyage, Kindle 4NTB x 4	Wow, thanks for all the information! I am always amazed when I come to mobile read to find out how much I DON'T know about my e readers!! I did a factory reset, and de-registered it from the web site. So when it turned back on it was at the beginning of the set up process. I just turned it off and put it in the box. I'm not sure when I will get it up to Bristol, hopefully in the next couple weeks. Thanks for the woolie worm link Blossom! I haven't seen any down here yet this year, but I will keep my eye out for one. I'd like to know what kind of winter we are in for! S

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11-03-2012, 06:50 PM	#22
Barbara1955 Non-Techy Posts: 4,455 Karma: 15499273 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: WV---USA Device: Samsung Cell Phone & Amazon Fires & Kobo eReaders	Leaving the ebooks not any different then the libray loading ereaders with ebooks then lending them out.

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