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Jon, the fact that you don't personally like it does NOT mean that it's wrong. You really need to stop thinking that anyone whose views differ from your own is "wrong". It is possible for people to have differing opinions on things, and many things (this included) are not "black and write".
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A blockquote (for example) is supposed to have margins all around it. The margins can be changed based on what you set in the CSS. But they are not meant to have no margins otherwise, why bother with a blockquote?
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https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...7&postcount=13 and think about it. You will see that a blockquote is not meant to "indent text", but rather to mark it as "a (block-level) citation". |
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Why use a blockquote if it's not going to actually be a blockquote? A blockquote is meant to offset text by having a margin around block of text. By having no margins for a blockquote, you end up with it not actually being a blockquote. The amount of margin used is up to whomever. But there has to be a margin of enoug of a size to show the block of text is actually offset or it's not a proper blockquote.
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A blockquote is a semantic concept, not a visual one. Ask yourself this, for example: how would a text to speech program differentiate a blockquote from the surrounding text? |
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In this case, "indent" means margin (left margin, in particular). You are probably assuming it's only the first-line indent (or the text-indent property). From dictionary.com:
2. to set in or back from the margin, as the first line of a paragraph. (note: "as the first line", not that it's only used for the first line) Quote:
A blockquote is a block-level quotation, nothing should be assumed about its formatting. |
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Ok, for the sake of clarity (although, as Jellby noted, "indent" does not refer to the first line only), let me amend the previous post:
I am sorry, JSWolf, but you should really read my previous post (and follow the link to W3C): https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...7&postcount=13 and think about it. You will see that a blockquote is not meant to "put bigger margins around some text", but rather to mark it as "a (block-level) citation". Said that, we have been elaborating on the concept for the last 10 posts or so, supporting our reasoning with examples and logics and providing links to the W3C documents. If you want to think about the explanations we are offering you, good. Otherwise I can easily move on with you believing what you want on the point, but please do not claim to be on the right side. Last edited by AlPe; 08-01-2012 at 03:37 AM. |
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I'm sorry, but you are all plain wrong. You obviously have no idea the function of a blockquote. Read what I've put previously to know what a blockquote is.
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Let's go straight to the horse's mouth, Jon, and see what "w3.org" has to tell us about blockquotes:
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#h-9.2.2 Quote:
It goes on to tell us: Quote:
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Doesn't matter about that being deprecated. It still exists, it's still supported and it still works.
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