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In my experience, all those "fancy" "high ascii value" characters often display on my Reader PRS500 as %something. Curly quotes might be more eye pleasing, but when they do not display properly, I will gladly replace fancy, non-standard MSSoftware generated quotes, em-dashes, en-dashes, ... (ellipsis) characters and other stuf with their "vanilla ASCII" aproximation. You might want to have a look at the software called demoroniser http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/demoroniser/ |
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Book Designer does output proper curly quotes and em dashes. But you are right, the Book Cleaner files are needed in order to keep em dashes.
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I'm afraid I know nothing about LaTex. Personally I've always indicated a range as, for example "5 - 10". I don't know if there is any generally-accepted standard for that (outside LaTex, I mean).
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LaTex supports emdash via ---, endash via --, and hyphen via -. In Math mode it also supports the minus-sign (not the same as the previous three) and a variety of dash-like entities of various widths and heights above the base-line. It turns out that all of these are distinct characters (yikes!), have differing uses typographically, and really ought to be supported as distinct things.
The thing tompe was asking about for ranges is an endash. Which, strangely enough, is exactly the standard typography for a range of numbers. Not to be confused with the emdash being used for setting of parenthetical clauses. Usually written in plain ascii as "blah blah--parenthetical clause--blah blah" but typeset with an emdash in place of the hyphen-hyphen (or sometimes space-hyphen-hyphen-space) sequence. And note that the typeset version has no spaces! LaTex's usage makes sense, in that emdash is wider than endash is wider than hyphen. But it's at variance with the PG 'standard' which evolved out of trying to make plain ASCII look sort-of-kind-of like typesetting. By comparison, LaTex is trying to actually indicate what the typesetting should be (thus the distinctions between various kinds of hyphen-like entities). More than anyone wanted to know, I'm sure. Xenophon Last edited by Xenophon; 01-09-2008 at 12:33 PM. Reason: fixing grammar and clarifying example |
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I can quickly write and debug macro for Vim and macro for OpenOffice.org . I even used to create rtf files and even "pocket word files" (in reality a slightly modified rtf file) "by hand" in an plain text editor (Vim) using a few scripts and templates. I will definitely try playing with LRF files. The problem is all the tools that I have tried for creating LRF files have default settings that I dislike. Like large margins, serif font, and ... shudder ... full justification. I really prefer jagged right edge of text to uneven spaces between words, especially then there are too few words on a line - like when you view text on a 6" screen. |
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Most people who create books here use Book Designer. It lets you set things up just how you like them, and once you get things set, it remembers your settings.
The other benefit of BD is that you can create multiple output formats from the same source. |
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