Amazon snags Bond - Page 2

ProfCrash · 04-17-2012, 09:45 PM

You so do not hate saying that Jon. (winks)

The e-books have been available at all the stores for the last few years. EPub readers have had time to buy them. Penguin decided to not renew the contract, Amazon gave them a good deal. (shrugs)

Amazon does not have to make them exclusive. It will be interesting the see what happens.

JSWolf · 04-17-2012, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

You so do not hate saying that Jon. (winks)

The e-books have been available at all the stores for the last few years. EPub readers have had time to buy them. Penguin decided to not renew the contract, Amazon gave them a good deal. (shrugs)

Amazon does not have to make them exclusive. It will be interesting the see what happens.

Well, the prices were not reasonable being agency eBooks. Now that the DOJ is doing something about the agency pricing, there was a change that when that was all over that the prices would have been reasonable.

Synamon · 04-17-2012, 10:05 PM

Penguin never had the rights for the ebooks, Ian Fleming Publications produced ebooks for both the US and UK. Btw, Random House's Vintage Books imprint purchased the rights for the books and ebooks outside the US and Canada.

InsulinJunkie72 · 04-17-2012, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Synamon

Ian Fleming Publications produced ebooks for both the US and UK

I saw one one or two of the ebooks pop up on some of the Amazon sales the last six months (I believe in one of those "select 1 of 50 books of a certain genre for $1" deals, otherwise it may have been one of those monthly "100 books for $2.99 or less" sales), so that explains that. Non-agency.

xg4bx · 04-17-2012, 11:58 PM

can't blame amazon for snapping up a good deal, its not their fault nobody else wanted them. i guess the other pubs were too busy signing snooki to another book deal to worry about a legacy i.p. like james bond.

ProfCrash · 04-18-2012, 02:40 AM

The DOJ is doing something about the collusion that led to Agency Pricing. Random House can continue using the same Agency Pricing structure and MFN status for Apple if it wants as it was not charged.

tompe · 04-18-2012, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

I hate to say this, but I will... this eBook exclusivity is a bad thing. It hinders a large group of people from being able to read what they want as they want.

Really, what large group are you talking about? Everybody owning a computer can read them. Everybody having a smart phone can read them. Everybody that can buy a cheap Kindle can read them.

HansTWN · 04-18-2012, 04:48 AM

All the books are around USD 9.-, lol. Thanks, but no thanks. I would get a few of them for $5-6.

crossi · 04-18-2012, 04:59 AM

Well why not? Don't you have a smartphone or computer? Get the kindle app and read to your heart's content. No reason you have to give up your Nook or whatever. Just buy from more than one retailer. Heck the lowest priced ereader from Amazon isn't that much. Have 2 ereaders or 3 if you want one registered in England to get ebooks not available in the US.

kennyc · 04-18-2012, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by fjtorres

Time to flog Amazon with a different stick:

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....161&highlight=

The next Bond movie is due next summer, right?

Excellent! Keep 'em available!

Prestidigitweeze · 04-18-2012, 07:26 AM

Here's a question I'd love to ask J.B.: If the point of creating the Kindle was to sell content, and you're so enamored of content sales that you're offering the Kindle Fire at a loss in order to increase content demand, then what's stopping you from selling additional content to epub-only readers, since you don't even have to take a loss on hardware to make that money?

(For me, James Bond novels conjure the image of unshaven people in hospital gowns reading mass-market paperbacks on institutional sofas while mumbling mathematical formulas to themselves, but for the rest of you, enjoy.)

RHWright · 04-18-2012, 07:54 AM

Another reason to hold onto my vintage 60s paperbacks of these, including Thrilling Cities.

rhadin · 04-18-2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Kali Yuga

Ebooks will probably be exclusive.

B&N and some other retailers are refusing to carry books published by Amazon. They might change their minds for the Bond stuff, but maybe not.

The original Ian Fleming Bond books have not been big sellers in the United States in the past couple of decades, so I suspect they will let consumers order them online but not carry them in the stores or promote them. I agree that they are unlikely to carry the ebooks.

It will be interesting to see how Amazon prices the Bond books. They are 50 years old and all of the editorial costs have already been absorbed and paid for. Amazon's costs should be minimal, especially as it claims not to have the legacy overhead of a traditional publisher. Consequently, I would think that a fair price for the ebooks would be $2.99. Will Amazon fans complain if the price is higher?

tubemonkey · 04-18-2012, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by fjtorres

It'll be interesting to see how Amazon plays it.

How about special Kindles bundled with the Bond collection? They could call it - Bonded Kindle

With a reissue this summer (starting 20 Jun), why not rush it in time for Father's Day (17 Jun)?

crossi · 04-18-2012, 08:18 AM

Personally I don't complain about backlist fiction unless it is over $7. I might or might not buy it at that price depending on my desire to read it and the size of my TBR list, but anything that price or lower seems fine. Maybe not reprints of old silhouttes or harlequins though, those are closer to novelettes than true novels, so I probably wouldn't pay over $4 for one of those.

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04-17-2012, 09:45 PM	#16
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	You so do not hate saying that Jon. (winks) The e-books have been available at all the stores for the last few years. EPub readers have had time to buy them. Penguin decided to not renew the contract, Amazon gave them a good deal. (shrugs) Amazon does not have to make them exclusive. It will be interesting the see what happens.

04-17-2012, 10:05 PM	#18
Synamon Lunatic Posts: 1,691 Karma: 4386372 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Land of the Loonie Device: Kindle Paperwhite and Keyboard, Kobo Aura, iPad mini, iPod Touch	Penguin never had the rights for the ebooks, Ian Fleming Publications produced ebooks for both the US and UK. Btw, Random House's Vintage Books imprint purchased the rights for the books and ebooks outside the US and Canada.

04-17-2012, 11:58 PM	#20
xg4bx Are you gonna eat that? Posts: 1,633 Karma: 23215128 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Phillipsburg, NJ Device: Kindle 3, Nook STG	can't blame amazon for snapping up a good deal, its not their fault nobody else wanted them. i guess the other pubs were too busy signing snooki to another book deal to worry about a legacy i.p. like james bond.

04-18-2012, 02:40 AM	#21
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	The DOJ is doing something about the collusion that led to Agency Pricing. Random House can continue using the same Agency Pricing structure and MFN status for Apple if it wants as it was not charged.

04-18-2012, 04:48 AM	#23
HansTWN Wizard Posts: 4,538 Karma: 264065402 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Taiwan Device: HP Touchpad, Sony Duo 13, Lumia 920, Kobo Aura HD	All the books are around USD 9.-, lol. Thanks, but no thanks. I would get a few of them for $5-6.

04-18-2012, 04:59 AM	#24
crossi Guru Posts: 997 Karma: 12000001 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Seattle Wahington U.S. Device: kindle	Well why not? Don't you have a smartphone or computer? Get the kindle app and read to your heart's content. No reason you have to give up your Nook or whatever. Just buy from more than one retailer. Heck the lowest priced ereader from Amazon isn't that much. Have 2 ereaders or 3 if you want one registered in England to get ebooks not available in the US.

04-18-2012, 07:26 AM	#26
Prestidigitweeze Fledgling Demagogue Posts: 2,384 Karma: 31132263 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: White Plains Device: Clara HD; Oasis 2; Aura HD; iPad Air; PRS-350; Galaxy S7.	Here's a question I'd love to ask J.B.: If the point of creating the Kindle was to sell content, and you're so enamored of content sales that you're offering the Kindle Fire at a loss in order to increase content demand, then what's stopping you from selling additional content to epub-only readers, since you don't even have to take a loss on hardware to make that money? (For me, James Bond novels conjure the image of unshaven people in hospital gowns reading mass-market paperbacks on institutional sofas while mumbling mathematical formulas to themselves, but for the rest of you, enjoy.)

04-18-2012, 07:54 AM	#27
RHWright Addict Posts: 219 Karma: 2617122 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: North Carolina Device: NOOK ST, Nexus 7	Another reason to hold onto my vintage 60s paperbacks of these, including Thrilling Cities.

04-18-2012, 08:18 AM	#30
crossi Guru Posts: 997 Karma: 12000001 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Seattle Wahington U.S. Device: kindle	Personally I don't complain about backlist fiction unless it is over $7. I might or might not buy it at that price depending on my desire to read it and the size of my TBR list, but anything that price or lower seems fine. Maybe not reprints of old silhouttes or harlequins though, those are closer to novelettes than true novels, so I probably wouldn't pay over $4 for one of those.

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