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Old 02-27-2012, 01:23 PM   #16
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I'm going to say that the book was not being sold at Kobo for $.99 - at least not in the last two weeks. I have this book on my TBR list and have been debating on purchasing (in ebook format). I checked the price on it very recently when the new Kobo coupons game thingy came out.
On his site, it says that Amazon told him it was that price on Kobo at some point "over the last couple months".
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On his site, it says that Amazon told him it was that price on Kobo at some point "over the last couple months".
Yeah. And that was rather...muddy and clear, right? lol!
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Old 02-27-2012, 04:07 PM   #18
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Yeah. And that was rather...muddy and clear, right? lol!
Exactly!
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Old 02-27-2012, 04:16 PM   #19
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Old 02-27-2012, 04:35 PM   #20
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Nope. Walmart has actual stores were you can talk to actual people.
...and it's a really scary place to go. At least the one near me is.
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...and it's a really scary place to go. At least the one near me is.
^This.
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Old 02-27-2012, 05:38 PM   #23
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Cool Oh, come on........
I think you're all picking on Amazon just because they're an industry monololith aiming to be a monopoly, wish to have complete control over practically all aspects of distributing an author's work,without any of the hassle that publishers have to go through to produce their work, and don't care a fig about any damage they might do to the book trade, individual authors, or the readers much, as long as they keep paying........

I mean, what's not to like ?

Give them a break for goodness sake.
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Old 02-27-2012, 07:01 PM   #24
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When he complained Amazon basically sent the guy a boilerplate response that said they may reprice books if they have found them offered elsewhere for a lower price. However, Hines maintains that the books were not offered elsewhere for a lower price.
But that was not what they said which you see if you read the quote. They said that they may reprice the book, and one possible reason was that they had found it at a lower price. They did not say that this was the reason in this case.
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Nope. Walmart has actual stores were you can talk to actual people.
Last time I called Amazon's customer support, I spoke to a human being ...
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Man, y'all crack me up.

It's utterly vile for the publisher to determine the price, because it should be up to the retailer. When the retailer slashes the price, it's also utterly vile because... the self-publisher ought to control the price.

The author didn't read the fine print. And part of the price you pay, as an independent author using a self-publishing service like KDP, is that -- as Hines points out on his own blog -- you are on your own. You don't have a big publisher backing you up and yanking the retailer back in line; you don't have a publisher's lawyer combing through the agreement for the gotchas. And no, you can't trust Amazon's or Apple's anything to work flawlessly and in the author's interest.

(For those hoping to reach humans, just keep in mind that Apple uses human screening for its apps, which results in backlogs and arbitrary -- and not necessarily arbitrary -- rejections of content.)

Also, people 'round here are quite fond of touting the benefits of disintermediation and ditching the publishers -- without recognizing that this is just shifting power away from publishers and towards Amazon, Apple and whatever handful book retailers will be left standing. We're going to see a lot more of these kinds of incidents as self-publishing gains steam.

On balance, will it be worth it? Beats me. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
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...and it's a really scary place to go. At least the one near me is.
Where Walmart used to be nightmare to shop at (dirty, cramped aisles, poor displays, stock blocking aisles, cluttered shelves that were poorly marked, etc), the newer ones popping up in the Seattle area are very nice. Well landscaped grounds, spacious, well lit, well stocked, good displays, very clean, etc. A dramatic change from the way it used to be.

Before this change, Target was my primary store for day-to-day purchases. Now Walmart is.
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On balance, will it be worth it? Beats me. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
For me, I really don't care one way or the other. Reading is an optional life activity. If it gets too restrictive, I'll find something else to do. No big deal.
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..........The author didn't read the fine print. and whatever handful book retailers will be left standing. We're going to see a lot more of these kinds of incidents as self-publishing gains steam. .....

Authors - or any creative beings ?

Read ?

Contracts ?
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