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Old 02-25-2012, 09:31 PM   #16
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I read gormenghast et al in the 1950's. Perhaps this is a book I should re-read. I remember sort of liking it enough to read the sequels, but being a tad puzzled at times. A bit dark in spots for someone in grades 5-6?
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Old 02-26-2012, 11:23 AM   #17
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If you like older books, I would recommend The Worm Ourobouros by E.R. Eddison and The Well at the World's End by William Morris.

Also don't forget Roger Zelazny's Amber books, Poul Anderson's The Broken Sword, The Last Unicorn by Peter Beagle, Lud-in-the-Mist by Hope Mirlees, The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath by H.P. Lovecraft, The Blue Star and The Well of the Unicorn by Fletcher Pratt.
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Old 02-26-2012, 11:40 AM   #18
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I read gormenghast et al in the 1950's. Perhaps this is a book I should re-read. I remember sort of liking it enough to read the sequels, but being a tad puzzled at times. A bit dark in spots for someone in grades 5-6?
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There's a nice illustrated eBook of the Gormenghast trilogy available.
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:33 PM   #19
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If you like older books, I would recommend The Worm Ourobouros by E.R. Eddison
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Steven Erikson's Malazan Book of the Fallen. No hero's journey there (well, maybe one, kind of, in amongst a lot of other, much more interesting stuff). Not many clear-cut heroes at all, come to think of it.
I would second this recommendation. The Malazan book of the fallen series is HUGE in scope, truly epic high fantasy that while paying homage to a great many genres, does not fall into their conventions. Very unique series, though, densely populated and incredibly intricate in terms of narrative and scope.

I'm on book 9 of the 10 book series (which also includes additional books by the co-creator, Ian Essemont).

Also, if you are interested, the one series i think that really inspired Erikson to do the Malazan saga was Glen Cook's out of print series The Black Company. Gritty high fantasy. That too does not follow the traditional conventions of the genre.

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Old 02-29-2012, 11:23 AM   #21
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Also, if you are interested, the one series i think that really inspired Erikson to do the Malazan saga was Glen Cook's out of print series The Black Company. Gritty high fantasy. That too does not follow the traditional conventions of the genre.
The Black Company is available as DTB omnibus at Amazon. No Kindle books, but I did click on the I'd like to read this book on Kindle link.

http://www.amazon.com/Chronicles-Bla.../dp/0765319233
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Old 02-29-2012, 11:24 AM   #22
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Let me in turn second the Black Company then, which was probably the spearhead for the gritty and realistic segment of today's Fantasy. Or at least it was the first such that I encountered.
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Old 02-29-2012, 02:05 PM   #23
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If you like Glen Cook you might also like Simon R. Green. (probably I have said this before)
Love them both.

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Old 02-29-2012, 02:06 PM   #24
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There's a nice illustrated eBook of the Gormenghast trilogy available.
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Old 02-29-2012, 04:56 PM   #25
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Gene Wolfe. He isn't everyone's cup of tea but when he's "on" he's world class. Even some of his SF is really fantasy to me. Maybe the series starting with Shadow of the Torturer?

Or Neil Gaiman? American Gods. The Graveyard Book.

None of these is a traditional hero's journey.
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:31 AM   #26
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I just started the 'Torchwood' series of books. If you never heard of Torchwood, it's a spin-off of Doctor Who and is more adult. I'm on the first book called 'Another Life' written by Peter Anghelides. I was able to get a few of them on tape from my public library. Amazon has the ebooks from $5 for the oldest to about $10 for the newer. The paperbacks can be had for a lot less used and ebay also has some.

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01
Another Life
Peter Anghelides
4 January 2007
ISBN 978-0-563-48653-8

02
Border Princes
Dan Abnett
4 January 2007
ISBN 978-0-563-48654-8

03
Slow Decay
Andy Lane
4 January 2007
ISBN 978-0-563-48655-8

04
Something in the Water
Trevor Baxendale
6 March 2008
ISBN 978-1-84607-437-0

05
Trace Memory
David Llewellyn
6 March 2008
ISBN 978-1-846-07438-8

06
The Twilight Streets
Gary Russell
6 March 2008
ISBN 978-1-84607-439-4

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Pack Animals
Peter Anghelides
16 October 2008
ISBN 978-1-84607-574-2

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SkyPoint
Phil Ford
16 October 2008
ISBN 978-1-84607-575-9

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Almost Perfect
James Goss
16 October 2008
ISBN 978-1-84607-573-5

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Into the Silence
Sarah Pinborough
25 June 2009
ISBN 978-1-84607-753-1

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Bay of the Dead
Mark Morris
25 June 2009
ISBN 978-1-84607-737-1

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The House that Jack Built
Guy Adams
25 June 2009
ISBN 978-1-84607-739-5

13
Risk Assessment
James Goss
15 October 2009
ISBN 978-1-84607-783-8

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The Undertaker's Gift
Trevor Baxendale
15 October 2009
ISBN 978-1-84607-782-1

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Consequences
Joseph Lidster, James Moran, Andrew Cartmel,
David Llewellyn, Sarah Pinborough
15 October 2009
ISBN 978-1-84607-784-5

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First Born[2]
James Goss
21 July 2011
ISBN 978-1-84990-283-0

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Long Time Dead[2]
Sarah Pinborough
4 August 2011
ISBN 978-1-84990-284-7

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The Men Who Sold The World[2]
Guy Adams
18 August 2011
ISBN 978-1-84990-285-4
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Old 03-01-2012, 10:54 AM   #27
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Gene Wolfe. He isn't everyone's cup of tea but when he's "on" he's world class. Even some of his SF is really fantasy to me. Maybe the series starting with Shadow of the Torturer?
Or is it that some of his fantasy is really SF

Is his Book of the New Sun series available as ebooks?

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Or is it that some of his fantasy is really SF

Is his Book of the New Sun series available as ebooks?
Doesn't appear to be available. Audible does carry the audio books though.
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Old 03-01-2012, 03:22 PM   #29
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It is available in the UK from Gollancz/SFGateway. I don't know where else their rights extend, but it's pretty surprising that it's not available in the US.

It's the later Long Sun that I never managed to finish, though, and that doesn't seem to be available yet.
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It is available in the UK from Gollancz/SFGateway. I don't know where else their rights extend, but it's pretty surprising that it's not available in the US.
It seems the majority of SFGateway titles aren't available to US customers—or maybe it's just the majority of what I'm interested in. I frankly gave up checking to see what is available to me there. It's much easier to assume it's not.
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