Register Guidelines E-Books Today's Posts Search

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book General > General Discussions

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-12-2012, 07:37 AM   #16
AlexGrama
Writer
AlexGrama ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AlexGrama ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AlexGrama ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AlexGrama ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AlexGrama ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AlexGrama ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AlexGrama ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AlexGrama ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AlexGrama ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AlexGrama ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AlexGrama ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
AlexGrama's Avatar
 
Posts: 275
Karma: 345042
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: UK
Device: Kindle Paperwhite, Nexus 7
Referring to a known TV show, I believe that Hank Moody's "God hates us all" being made into a movie, "Crazy little thing called love", is the worst thing to happen.
AlexGrama is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2012, 08:41 AM   #17
HarryT
eBook Enthusiast
HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
HarryT's Avatar
 
Posts: 85,544
Karma: 93383099
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: UK
Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6
The majority of movies originate as books. It's probably easier to make a list of those that don't, rather than those that do.
HarryT is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 02-12-2012, 09:14 AM   #18
Phogg
PHD in Horribleness
Phogg ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Phogg ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Phogg ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Phogg ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Phogg ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Phogg ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Phogg ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Phogg ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Phogg ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Phogg ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Phogg ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Phogg's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,320
Karma: 23599604
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: In the ironbound section, near avenue L
Device: Just a whole bunch. I guess I am a collector now.
Quote:
Originally Posted by hidari View Post
I thought it was a good film...what didnt you like? Paul Verhoeven use of satire? or....
The plot, sub plot, technology, and point of the film were radically different from the themes the book explores. They still fought bugs and the dropship was still the Rodger Young but the parallels end there.
Phogg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2012, 09:28 AM   #19
DrNefario
Wizard
DrNefario ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DrNefario ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DrNefario ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DrNefario ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DrNefario ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DrNefario ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DrNefario ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DrNefario ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DrNefario ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DrNefario ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DrNefario ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
DrNefario's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,189
Karma: 12000000
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: UK
Device: Kindle, Kobo Touch, Nook SimpleTouch
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phogg View Post
The plot, sub plot, technology, and point of the film were radically different from the themes the book explores. They still fought bugs and the dropship was still the Rodger Young but the parallels end there.
I'd agree with that. It's almost ridiculous to give them the same title. They both kind of use the interstellar war as a backdrop for their authors' very different social commentaries.

Compare to Bladerunner, which (a) does not have the same title as the book, and (b) while stylistically entirely different, is still ultimately about the same thing: what is it to be human?
DrNefario is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2012, 09:34 AM   #20
GlenBarrington
Cheese Whiz
GlenBarrington ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GlenBarrington ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GlenBarrington ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GlenBarrington ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GlenBarrington ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GlenBarrington ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GlenBarrington ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GlenBarrington ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GlenBarrington ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GlenBarrington ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GlenBarrington ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
GlenBarrington's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,986
Karma: 11677147
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Springfield, Illinois
Device: Kindle PW, Samsung Tab A 10.1(2019), Pixel 6a.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phogg View Post
The plot, sub plot, technology, and point of the film were radically different from the themes the book explores. They still fought bugs and the dropship was still the Rodger Young but the parallels end there.
Well, I could have forgiven the technology upgrade if the film had been better. Heinlein's 1940's vision of future tech does seem dated and would have made the film seem kind of steampunk(ish?). But I can't forgive the complete abandonment of the whole POINT of the story!

Instead of 'Starship Trooper' why didn't they call it "$@#&, my SF writer never said!"
GlenBarrington is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 02-12-2012, 09:35 AM   #21
Apache
Readaholic
Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Apache's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,259
Karma: 90000484
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: South Georgia
Device: Surface Pro 6 / Galaxy Tab A 8"
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kumabjorn View Post
The Girl with a Dragon Tatoo
@apache
Shogun was a TV series, not a movie.
Yep, I wasn't thinking when I listed that one.

Last edited by Apache; 02-12-2012 at 11:58 AM. Reason: correct misspelling
Apache is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2012, 09:38 AM   #22
Apache
Readaholic
Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Apache's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,259
Karma: 90000484
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: South Georgia
Device: Surface Pro 6 / Galaxy Tab A 8"
Quote:
Originally Posted by GlenBarrington View Post
Well, I could have forgiven the technology upgrade if the film had been better. Heinlein's 1940's vision of future tech does seem dated and would have made the film seem kind of steampunk(ish?). But I can't forgive the complete abandonment of the whole POINT of the story!

Instead of 'Starship Trooper' why didn't they call it "$@#&, my SF writer never said!"
So true. The movie was not Starship Troopers. The CGI series Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles was a better portrayal of the book.
I can not remember the name of the book and movie, but I read a western and went to see the movie. The Name of the movie and the names of the male and female lead were the only thing the same as the book.
Apache
Apache is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2012, 09:44 AM   #23
HarryT
eBook Enthusiast
HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
HarryT's Avatar
 
Posts: 85,544
Karma: 93383099
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: UK
Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Apache View Post
So true. The movie was not Starship Troopers. The CGI series Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles was a better portrayal of the book.
I can not remember the name of the book and movie, but I read a western and went to see the movie. The Name of the movie and the names of the male and female lead were the only thing the same as the book.
Apache
That happens quite a lot. The only thing the James Bond film "The Spy Who Loved Me" has in common with the book is the title.
HarryT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2012, 10:20 AM   #24
RolandD
Fanatic
RolandD ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.RolandD ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.RolandD ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.RolandD ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.RolandD ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.RolandD ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.RolandD ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.RolandD ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.RolandD ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.RolandD ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.RolandD ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
RolandD's Avatar
 
Posts: 561
Karma: 3228980
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Branson, MO, USA
Device: Kindle Touch is now my main eReader.
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarryT View Post
That happens quite a lot. The only thing the James Bond film "The Spy Who Loved Me" has in common with the book is the title.
And, oh so many, movies 'based' on Stephen King stories.
RolandD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2012, 10:25 AM   #25
JDK1962
Groupie
JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
JDK1962's Avatar
 
Posts: 154
Karma: 2054094
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Boulder, CO
Device: Kindle Voyage, Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (for PDFs)
Much shorter and more interesting lists could be made of movies that actually improved upon the novels.

The Godfather is (IMHO) an example of a movie that far outstripped its source material. The Mario Puzo novel is, at best, a screen treatment, and at worst (which is most of the time) pretty dreadful pulp fiction.

About a Boy is another. I enjoyed the novel by Nick Hornby, but I thought the movie did a terrific job of capturing the spirit of book, retaining all its best scenes while improving the ending, which in Nick Hornby's novel tied the book to a very specific moment in time.

I'm currently reading P.D. James' The Children of Men, am over a third of the way through, and am so far thinking that the screenwriters did a pretty amazing job in taking the essence of the book and distilling it into something cinematic. So far, there hasn't been a single overlapped scene, but the filmmakers got it.
JDK1962 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2012, 10:32 AM   #26
HarryT
eBook Enthusiast
HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
HarryT's Avatar
 
Posts: 85,544
Karma: 93383099
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: UK
Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by JDK1962 View Post
Much shorter and more interesting lists could be made of movies that actually improved upon the novels.

The Godfather is (IMHO) an example of a movie that far outstripped its source material. The Mario Puzo novel is, at best, a screen treatment, and at worst (which is most of the time) pretty dreadful pulp fiction.

About a Boy is another. I enjoyed the novel by Nick Hornby, but I thought the movie did a terrific job of capturing the spirit of book, retaining all its best scenes while improving the ending, which in Nick Hornby's novel tied the book to a very specific moment in time.

I'm currently reading P.D. James' The Children of Men, am over a third of the way through, and am so far thinking that the screenwriters did a pretty amazing job in taking the essence of the book and distilling it into something cinematic. So far, there hasn't been a single overlapped scene, but the filmmakers got it.
Given the fundamental differences between the two media - print and film - I think personally that it's difficult to make direct comparisons. Film is a primarily visual medium; print is not. There are many books that just can't be meaningfully directly converted into films, because there's little or no "action".
HarryT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2012, 12:00 PM   #27
Apache
Readaholic
Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Apache ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Apache's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,259
Karma: 90000484
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: South Georgia
Device: Surface Pro 6 / Galaxy Tab A 8"
Gone To Texas was the book, by Forrest Carter, that was made into the movie The Outlaw Josie Wales. Over all, I thought they did a great job with the movie.
Apache
Apache is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2012, 12:08 PM   #28
JDK1962
Groupie
JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
JDK1962's Avatar
 
Posts: 154
Karma: 2054094
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Boulder, CO
Device: Kindle Voyage, Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (for PDFs)
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarryT View Post
Given the fundamental differences between the two media - print and film - I think personally that it's difficult to make direct comparisons. Film is a primarily visual medium; print is not. There are many books that just can't be meaningfully directly converted into films, because there's little or no "action".
I'm not sure I agree that there are successful books that cannot be translated into film, even given differences in the mediums. If there's a compelling story being told, I think a skilled filmmaker can bring it to the screen in a compelling manner while keeping the essence, even if they need to do some reworking (e.g., The Remains of the Day, The English Patient and A Beautiful Mind come to mind...the latter isn't a novel of course, but none of the books had a whole lot of "action"). I believe in the power of good screenwriters.

Then of course of you have something like Alan Hollinghurst's The Stranger's Child...I don't think anyone could make a compelling film out of that. But it doesn't challenge the above theory, because the book completely lacked any dramatic arc (or dramatic incident) whatsoever. A movie of it would have amazing visuals of English country estates, but a screenwriter would have to do a massive amount of work to give it some forward momentum.
JDK1962 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2012, 12:35 PM   #29
JDK1962
Groupie
JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JDK1962 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
JDK1962's Avatar
 
Posts: 154
Karma: 2054094
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Boulder, CO
Device: Kindle Voyage, Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (for PDFs)
On the flip side of my posts above, it's also interesting to point out books where the filmmakers TOTALLY missed the flavor of the novel and wound up making something awful out of something good. From a quick glance at my shelves:

-- The Evil That Men Do. Great pulp novel by R. Lance Hill, made into trash, casting Charles Bronson into a role he was 30-40 years too old for.
-- The Girl in a Swing. Richard Adams wrote very little that didn't involve talking animals, but I liked the mood that this novel created. Wow, did the filmmakers get this one wrong. The screenwriting lacked imagination, but casting Meg Tilly was the death knell (no comments on her acting, just totally, totally wrong for the character).
-- Fletch. Believe it or not, a fun, smart, Edgar award-winning mystery. Made into an idiotic Chevy Chase movie that completely missed the tone of the book.
-- Endless Love. Perhaps one of the worst movies of the 1980s, adapted from what I (and a lot of respected critics) thought was a really good literary novel about obsession and love. Poorly scripted, but even a great script would have been doomed by the casting of the male lead (excellent supporting cast though).

I would recommend any of these books without reservation, and would urge you to run far, far away from the films.
JDK1962 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2012, 01:29 PM   #30
HarryT
eBook Enthusiast
HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
HarryT's Avatar
 
Posts: 85,544
Karma: 93383099
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: UK
Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6
Short stories tend to be the most faithful to a film adaptation. Generally a novel will have far too much in it, and someone who enjoys the novel will almost inevitably be disappointed by what's had to be left out of the film.
HarryT is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Nuclear Werewolves & Other Direct-to-Cable Movies That Never Made It TonyR Self-Promotions by Authors and Publishers 0 03-09-2011 01:24 PM
some request , suggests , questions sybarite Calibre 4 10-10-2010 03:12 AM
Books made into movies SmartyPants Reading Recommendations 51 06-02-2010 06:11 PM
some qestions and suggests sybarite Calibre 7 04-09-2010 08:30 AM
NYT's 1,000 Best Movies Ever Made Colin Dunstan Lounge 2 06-26-2004 02:33 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:09 PM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.