Fire is Updating - Page 2

jswinden · 12-20-2011, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bubblehead

Perhaps the "update your Kindle" button is grayed out is because the update has not been sent. It will probably work when the update has been sent to your specific Fire. The word was that the update would be sent before Christmas and there are still a few days left.
Maybe we should be patient.

I think that is how it works, basically. If Amazon sends it to your Fire the update will most likely arrive and run before you even have time to press the button. At least that has been my experience with Kindle updates. If you sideload the update file, then the button will most likely allow you to run the update.

janicew · 12-20-2011, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Hope

How big is this update? I can only download 200 mb's per day.

I just downloaded it and it's around 180mb.

EDIT: 182.3mb to be exact.

WillysJeepMan · 12-20-2011, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SCION

It's not really a "Recent Items" list anymore if you can delete stuff from it. So just make it optional or configurable. I hope they're working on this. Maybe the delete thing was a quick fix because of complaints. If the Favorites shelves wasn't directly beneath it, I'd feel differently. But the way it is now, it's redundant at times and overkill. Or keep the Carousel and make it "pop out" (expand) at will.

I like the concept of the carousel/favorites but not the implementation. I'd like to see it behave similarly to how Microsoft's "QuickView" screen was implemented on the Zune HD portable media player.

For those not familiar with it, the QuickView screen displayed the last accessed album, video, image, etc. and had the option of "pin"ing media elements to that screen for easy access. It was, IMO, a brilliant design that enabled regularly accessed media to be easily accessible without having to burrow through the collection of stuff.

As an intermediate step, having the carousel display only the last item for each category (music, video, photo, app, book, site, etc.) would be helpful, IMO.

weatherman · 12-20-2011, 10:45 AM

I still haven't gotten the update. I think I'm just going to wait but I wonder what is taking so long...

Anyway, from what I've read I'm not hearing that this is the mega update I was expecting. Maybe people are just not talking about it but I was hoping for some actual multi-touch gestures to solve basic interface problems (i.e. two finger slide up to remove something from the carousel), easier access to volume controls, better personal doc/book management, and most importantly all the things we've been missing from the Reader app like page numbers, TTS, X-Ray, social sharing, etc. So far this update sounds like it adds the option to lock wifi for parental control and maybe a few bug fixes. No?

@willysjeepman: that sounds like a much better idea - don't have apps in the carousel, only media, or maybe some apps (like games) that could be tagged to appear in the carousel, and others that could be tagged (like mail and other commonly used apps) to never appear in the carousel. Send that idea to Jeff!

obsessed2 · 12-20-2011, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jswinden

I think that is how it works, basically. If Amazon sends it to your Fire the update will most likely arrive and run before you even have time to press the button. At least that has been my experience with Kindle updates. If you sideload the update file, then the button will most likely allow you to run the update.

I just downloaded the update using jeremy81's link (https://s3.amazonaws.com/kindle-fire...1E_3103920.bin) and sideloaded it to the kindleupdates folder using ES File Explorer and the Update Your Kindle button was no longer greyed out and I was able to update the Fire.

sparklemotion · 12-20-2011, 11:24 AM

The update seems to be mostly under an under the hood performance update. My fire does run smoother, smoother scrolling for sure, so that's nice. The touch sensitivity seems better too. I used to have to hit buttons more than once sometimes.

The obvious changes you can see are the data separations, the ability to remove items from the carousel, although they are put back when you open them again. There's really no customization at all so that was disappointing. There's also the option to lock wifi access. Also, archived book no longer show up on the carousel.

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Originally Posted by obsessed2

I just downloaded the update using jeremy81's link (https://s3.amazonaws.com/kindle-fire...1E_3103920.bin) and sideloaded it to the kindleupdates folder using ES File Explorer and the Update Your Kindle button was no longer greyed out and I was able to update the Fire.

That's what I did as well. I didn't want to wait any longer.

sparklemotion · 12-20-2011, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by WillysJeepMan

For those not familiar with it, the QuickView screen displayed the last accessed album, video, image, etc. and had the option of "pin"ing media elements to that screen for easy access. It was, IMO, a brilliant design that enabled regularly accessed media to be easily accessible without having to burrow through the collection of stuff.

As an intermediate step, having the carousel display only the last item for each category (music, video, photo, app, book, site, etc.) would be helpful, IMO.

I'd love to see something like this happen. I'd also love them to add collections for books.

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Originally Posted by weatherman

Anyway, from what I've read I'm not hearing that this is the mega update I was expecting. Maybe people are just not talking about it but I was hoping for some actual multi-touch gestures to solve basic interface problems (i.e. two finger slide up to remove something from the carousel), easier access to volume controls, better personal doc/book management, and most importantly all the things we've been missing from the Reader app like page numbers, TTS, X-Ray, social sharing, etc.

That is pretty much my wish list too!

janicew · 12-20-2011, 11:32 AM

I just updated. I sideloaded the update with Jeremy's link and was able to update. Didn't take long at all. I tried the sync and sleep thing, but that didn't do it for me.

WiFi lock doesn't really help me out, I've just secured purchases for when the kids play. Mine are old enough they are doing things with wifi that are totally appropriate, so I don't want to block that. Although it's an interesting option for some.

I did clear almost everything off the Carousel. Basically I went all the way to the end and cleared most everything off. I don't have near as many books as many of you do since I've been a kindle user for less than a year, but it didn't take long and going to the end first meant the next one just popped up. I could get a nice rhythm going.

I'm anxious to see what the "smoother scrolling" really means. Keep those updates coming Amazon! So far, they've been pretty responsive to the complaints. Even though this may not have been as many changes as we'd hope, I guess I hope they just keep them coming and make the fixes solid. I do like your wishlist though weatherman. Hope to see all those things in the future!

obsessed2 · 12-20-2011, 11:39 AM

I just read on the Amazon discussion board that you can select the download link (https://s3.amazonaws.com/kindle-fire...1E_3103920.bin) from within the Silk Browser on your Fire and it will download to the appropriate folder and allow you install / update the Fire. No sideloading required.

jswinden · 12-20-2011, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by obsessed2

I just read on the Amazon discussion board that you can select the download link (https://s3.amazonaws.com/kindle-fire...1E_3103920.bin) from within the Silk Browser on your Fire and it will download to the appropriate folder and allow you install / update the Fire. No sideloading required.

I just did this but it downloads the file to the Download folder. I had to move it using ES File Explorer.

JoeyBlaze · 12-20-2011, 12:09 PM

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and most importantly all the things we've been missing from the Reader app like page numbers

YES PLEASE!

pietrow · 12-20-2011, 12:11 PM

Cool, fire would change the evolution...

jswinden · 12-20-2011, 12:14 PM

You can remove items from the Carousel only until they are opened or run again at which time they will return to the Carousel. WTFire Amazon!!!! Give us a fricking switch to kill that POS Carousel!!

drjpreston · 12-20-2011, 12:14 PM

I am still waiting for the download. I may have to do it manually just because I am not very patient. Like others one of my biggest desires to to have the ability to set up collections dividing my books into groups. I love all the additional tablet features on my KF but it is still first and foremost a book reader for me.

weatherman · 12-20-2011, 12:17 PM

Funny, I just downloaded it and moved it to the kindleupdates folder, but my update button is still grayed-out.

12-20-2011, 11:39 AM	#24
obsessed2 Wizard Posts: 1,041 Karma: 4694121 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Virginia Device: Pocket Edge X 2 , Edge, gTab, Kindle Fire, Nextbook 7S	I just read on the Amazon discussion board that you can select the download link (https://s3.amazonaws.com/kindle-fire...1E_3103920.bin) from within the Silk Browser on your Fire and it will download to the appropriate folder and allow you install / update the Fire. No sideloading required. Last edited by obsessed2; 12-20-2011 at 11:52 AM.

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12-20-2011, 10:45 AM	#19
weatherman Addict Posts: 385 Karma: 1010052 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: (previous: Kindle 2, Kindle Fire) Kindle 4 WiFi, K3K, KPW	I still haven't gotten the update. I think I'm just going to wait but I wonder what is taking so long... Anyway, from what I've read I'm not hearing that this is the mega update I was expecting. Maybe people are just not talking about it but I was hoping for some actual multi-touch gestures to solve basic interface problems (i.e. two finger slide up to remove something from the carousel), easier access to volume controls, better personal doc/book management, and most importantly all the things we've been missing from the Reader app like page numbers, TTS, X-Ray, social sharing, etc. So far this update sounds like it adds the option to lock wifi for parental control and maybe a few bug fixes. No? @willysjeepman: that sounds like a much better idea - don't have apps in the carousel, only media, or maybe some apps (like games) that could be tagged to appear in the carousel, and others that could be tagged (like mail and other commonly used apps) to never appear in the carousel. Send that idea to Jeff!

12-20-2011, 11:32 AM	#23
janicew Enthusiast Posts: 42 Karma: 12 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Midwest Device: Kindle Keyboard, Kindle Fire	I just updated. I sideloaded the update with Jeremy's link and was able to update. Didn't take long at all. I tried the sync and sleep thing, but that didn't do it for me. WiFi lock doesn't really help me out, I've just secured purchases for when the kids play. Mine are old enough they are doing things with wifi that are totally appropriate, so I don't want to block that. Although it's an interesting option for some. I did clear almost everything off the Carousel. Basically I went all the way to the end and cleared most everything off. I don't have near as many books as many of you do since I've been a kindle user for less than a year, but it didn't take long and going to the end first meant the next one just popped up. I could get a nice rhythm going. I'm anxious to see what the "smoother scrolling" really means. Keep those updates coming Amazon! So far, they've been pretty responsive to the complaints. Even though this may not have been as many changes as we'd hope, I guess I hope they just keep them coming and make the fixes solid. I do like your wishlist though weatherman. Hope to see all those things in the future!

12-20-2011, 12:11 PM	#27
pietrow Creepy Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Us Device: xoom	Cool, fire would change the evolution...

12-20-2011, 12:14 PM	#28
jswinden Nameless Being	You can remove items from the Carousel only until they are opened or run again at which time they will return to the Carousel. WTFire Amazon!!!! Give us a fricking switch to kill that POS Carousel!!

12-20-2011, 12:14 PM	#29
drjpreston Enthusiast Posts: 27 Karma: 1082 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Southern California Device: Kindle 3 & Fire	I am still waiting for the download. I may have to do it manually just because I am not very patient. Like others one of my biggest desires to to have the ability to set up collections dividing my books into groups. I love all the additional tablet features on my KF but it is still first and foremost a book reader for me.

12-20-2011, 12:17 PM	#30
weatherman Addict Posts: 385 Karma: 1010052 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: (previous: Kindle 2, Kindle Fire) Kindle 4 WiFi, K3K, KPW	Funny, I just downloaded it and moved it to the kindleupdates folder, but my update button is still grayed-out.

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