Odyssey Odyssey on Youtube

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by EowynCarter

Well, if you didn't had the habit of showing up every now and then just to bash...

One thing I do wonder though...Is Bookeen's Monday now the same as the rest of the world?

But seriously, the videos are not really showing what they say the device should be able to do better then the competition.

[EowynCarter]

But seriously, the videos are not really showing what they say the device should be able to do better then the competition.

Oh, it do better. You can read without refresh flash at all. The cost being some slight ghosting.

Once again, if you're here just to bash or make silly joke, get out, the exit's that way ->

[bob123]

Originally Posted by EowynCarter

I think that it's a "we didn't had time to change the code from the orizon" case.

That is probably true. Hope they update it.

[johnnyb]

Come on EowynCarter, despite of what JSWolf usually does, he is right.
There is nothing in this video that distinguishes the Odyssey from any other latest-gen reader in terms of speed, in fact, my Kindle 3 performs just the same.
The animation really is the only thing that hints at what the Odyssey might be capable of, but the videos show that it is not (yet).
I myself was really excited about it as a reader especially for my PDF files, but the way I can see it, it handles PDFs really worse than Sony does, the way Sony did two years ago.
I will pay attention to the development of the device but right now it would be just random to buy it, it has no advantages over other well established systems, in fact cannot compete in terms of dictionaries or proper annotation support.

[EowynCarter]

Originally Posted by johnnyb

Come on EowynCarter, despite of what JSWolf usually does, he is right.

He is just a troll, so i won't bother with him. It don't mater if he right or wrong.

As to pdf, i find the odyssey is the best reader i've own for this. Including the sony-T1. Well, some said the re-flow function was not as good as the 650. Though it's still reading pdf on a 6".

There is nothing in this video that distinguishes the Odyssey from any other latest-gen reader in terms of speed, in fact, my Kindle 3 performs just the same.

with no flash it's prety fast. Parsing the ePub seam to be the killer there, as going back to a page will be faster.

The animation really is the only thing that hints at what the Odyssey might be capable of, but the videos show that it is not (yet).

Yeap, maybe bookeen should have spend less time with show-off things, and more to use that where it would have been useful.

[EowynCarter]

it has no advantages over other well established systems, in fact cannot compete in terms of dictionaries or proper annotation support.

Dictionaries and annotations are the points where the T1 overdo the odyssey.

[Billi]

Originally Posted by EowynCarter

He is just a troll, so i won't bother with him. It don't mater if he right or wrong.

I know we are encouraged to discuss opinions and not persons but, nevertheless, let me defend Jon. He definitely is not a troll. He knows a lot about ebook readers and ebook making and especially in the "E-Book Formats" section he gives a lot of useful help. And even in his many many posts that evoke negative reactions he more often than not has a point.

Eowyn, think back some time ago when you had a problem in the Calibre subforum. You received a lot of personal harsh comments (being called a troll was not the worst) and very little real discussion about your arguments. And contrary to this, we here in the Bookeen section know you not as troll but as a very helpful and knowing person and are glad to have you around.
It's not always that easy and not always that black and white.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by EowynCarter

Dictionaries and annotations are the points where the T1 overdo the odyssey.

I can understand Bookeen's commercial decision to only include a French-language dictionary in the Odyssey, given that their primary market is the French-speaking countries of Europe, but it's certainly going to make the Odyssey much less attractive to many. The omission of any form of annotation is just baffling. Why do Bookeen make such great hardware and then spoil it by releasing half-finished firmware? That's always been their weakness, unfortunately.

[idle]

Originally Posted by HarryT

The omission of any form of annotation is just baffling.

No annotations? So the notes they are mentioning in the specs is just some stand-alone note-taking application? That's a bit of a let down.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by idle

No annotations? So the notes they are mentioning in the specs is just some stand-alone note-taking application? That's a bit of a let down.

If it does indeed have annotation abilities then I'm very pleased to be wrong! It's high time that Bookeen added this capability - it was very much lacking in the earlier models.

[Jellby]

The Orizon has annotations (though not freehand) and bookmarks.

[jcgarnier]

Odyssey actually have annotation (not standalone mode) but it's yet not very useful : only one line can be typed in.

[idle]

Originally Posted by jcgarnier

Odyssey actually have annotation (not standalone mode) but it's yet not very useful : only one line can be typed in.

Thanks. That's at least something, although I'm still not very impressed.

[irmar]

Originally Posted by HarryT

I can understand Bookeen's commercial decision to only include a French-language dictionary in the Odyssey, given that their primary market is the French-speaking countries of Europe.

How is having a dictionary in your own language preferable? Most French people will know most French words (it's useful for rare words, but not so essential), but they will definitely need an English dictionary to look up English words in English books - correct me if I'm wrong.... Especially given the French people's generally poor performance in foreign languages in general.
(Of course what would be even more useful for them is an English-French-English dictionary, but an English-English could also be useful)

Originally Posted by HarryT

Because far more people read books in their own language than in a foreign language. I make frequent use of the dictionary on my Kindle.

But really: when you get engrossed in a book and there's a word you don't understand, do you really stop reading and look up the word? I never ever ever do that. It would destroy the joy of reading. I just guess from the context and go on. I tried that once, in my teens, when I was trying to read "Moby Dick" and it had all those nautical words. Needless to say, I never went past chapter one, it was so boring, like a school assignment. Reading is supposed to be pleasure, rapture, ecstasy and totally being carried away. Even with non-fiction. Searching for words and annotating is only good for study purposes, cannot think of any other use!

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by irmar

How is having a dictionary in your own language preferable?

Because far more people read books in their own language than in a foreign language. I make frequent use of the dictionary on my Kindle.