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Old 10-08-2011, 12:30 PM   #16
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Unfortunately it was in a unique niche of its own but I'm glad I have a DXG. It is my main reader at home and the K3 (plus KT soon) is used while I'm on the road or just out of the house. Reading with e-ink on a large (Pearl) display is a delight.
Agree completely.
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Old 10-09-2011, 02:53 AM   #17
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I love my DXG and, after +12 months with one, I don't think I could ever go back to a smaller 6" e-book reader. My wife has a K3, loves it, but I cannot stand it. The extra $190 I spent on it compared to a K3 was well worth it imho. The few pdf's (sometimes just a few pages) that don't play well with it (and often do not play well on my 15" PC monitor either), I just print out.

My guess is that there will be a new DXG wifi/3G touch introduced in the near future (within ~12 months) for ~$289. Amazon is already setup to produce lots of 9.7" pearl e-ink screens so I doubt that they will totally abandon it.

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Old 10-09-2011, 08:19 AM   #18
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True. PDF just sucks on the screen.

However, a few simple features would make it suck less. Reflow when possible, margin cropping, finer zoom control (not just 150%, 200% etc), and retaining the zoom level from page to page.
You, my friend, are actually describing in detail the new T1 reader from Sony
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:43 AM   #19
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True. PDF just sucks on the screen.

However, a few simple features would make it suck less. Reflow when possible, margin cropping, finer zoom control (not just 150%, 200% etc), and retaining the zoom level from page to page.
they are all possible on kindle DXG with duokan
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:50 AM   #20
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You, my friend, are actually describing in detail the new T1 reader from Sony
I didn't know that there was a version of the Sony T1 with a 9.7" screen. Can you provide a link to it?
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Nope, there's only the 6 inch - so if a larger screen is a must have it's out of the question. I, however, just ordered one after weeks of deliberation concerning which reader I should upgrade to from my kindle 3 - and went for the sony because of the PDF capabilities. most of the reviews I've seen so far say that it's probably he best ereader to date for reading and handling PDFs, irrespective of size. (but of course I hope for a reader that can do the same things but with bigger screen)
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:31 AM   #22
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One reason it never caught on is it sucks at handling PDF, which is what most textbook users need. So it's basically a giant reader for novels, and the price guarantees limited appeal.
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I always wondered why Amazon didn't release a Wifi only version and slash the price - if they wanted to continue in the large screen e-ink reader market. But I agree, the Fire arrival may stop any further large screen development. A pity - the DXG is a fine reader.
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I wish they would.... If they brought it down to $200-$250, I would definitely get one.
I don't know why Amazon is artificially crippling the Kindle DX. There are a number of cheap, easy, quick fixes that they could make to greatly boost its appeal and sales.

1. Update the PDF software to match that on the K3 and K4. It has already been proved feasible by the user community. There are a lot of super frustrated people out there that want to read PDFs on a large Eink screen. Pocketbook and Onyx seem unable to get it together enough to make a decent one. So even though the PDF software on the K3/K4 is still quite lacking, it would be quite bearable on a large screen.

2. Release a wifi model at a $50 lower price. The DX cellular radio is on a standard plug in module that can be replaced by a standard plug in wifi module. No new DX motherboard required.

3. Sell a special offers version for another $40 or $50 off.

These would make PDF bearable on the DX and get the price well below $300. The resulting increased volume should allow the price to drop further and justify further development of much needed improvements. If they are waiting for increased sales of the as is DX, it will never happen.
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The problem is amazon is not a hardware company; they sell content. So amazon doesn't care about PDF because it doesn't make money on it.

They do have that format of theirs which is a drm wrapper around PDF, so maybe we'll get a better PDF device eventually but for now it doesn't seem like a priority. At any rate, the existing DX is a dead end pretty much.

Mind you, I would love to have a dx myself, but it's too expensive. Prices on eBay have not budged.
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My guess is that there will be a new DXG wifi/3G touch introduced in the near future (within ~12 months) for ~$289. Amazon is already setup to produce lots of 9.7" pearl e-ink screens so I doubt that they will totally abandon it.
Don't think so. With the new Fire and the upcoming 10" Fire there's no reason for Amazon to stick with the DXG. Unfortunately it seems to be a dead end. I would like a good 10" ereader but Sony don't offer one and Pocketbook has good hardware but very poor software.
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Old 10-10-2011, 12:07 AM   #25
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They may be unwilling to promote it more (or even update it for that matter) because DX probably targets the market which is not very eager to buy Amazon's content, which doesn't exactly fit into Amazon's business model.
Like, if you want to read reflowable content, 6" is just fine. If you're getting DX, you're probably someone who needs to read a lot of pdf's. And pdf's are in 90% cases not bought from Amazon, but downloaded from you institions' library/JSTOR/company website - name your own resource of pdf. Now, that type of customers are definitely not the ones Amazon is looking for.. so, no, I don't get my hopes high.
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Maybe just me but +90% of my reading is non-pdf on my DXG. I just love to read amazon books on this thing because it feels/looks more like reading a hardcover book rather than a little dime-store paperback, lol!

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Maybe just me but +90% of my reading is non-pdf on my DXG. I just love to read amazon books on this thing because it feels/looks more like reading a hardcover book rather than a little dime-store paperback, lol!

Cheers,
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I completely agree. I do both PDF and mobi reading on my kindle DXG. It is great to increase the font and not change the page in every sentence. I carry it to my work too and i don't think it is heavy for outdoor usage. As someone said in this thread before there is no returning back to 6 inch after you see the 9.7 inch pearl. At least for me.
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The problem is amazon is not a hardware company; they sell content. So amazon doesn't care about PDF because it doesn't make money on it.

They do have that format of theirs which is a drm wrapper around PDF, so maybe we'll get a better PDF device eventually but for now it doesn't seem like a priority. At any rate, the existing DX is a dead end pretty much.

Mind you, I would love to have a dx myself, but it's too expensive. Prices on eBay have not budged.
bingo. it's all about profits. if i'm typical of DX owners, i get allot of my books and material for free in pdf format. in fact most of my library is sideloaded. amazon don't like me because i generate minimal revenue for them from ebook sales….their whole business model is mass appeal and mass sales.

the whole idea behind DX was for amazon to get a foothold in the academic text book market and make bucket loads selling technical books and manuals. unfortunately the students gave the device a big thumbs down.

in many ways amazon has let down its customers by failing to support the device…it's almost like they've taken the metaphorical huff with DX owners and have now left them and their expensive devices out in the cold.
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