Sorry to ask again...but need help deciding which ereader to buy! - Page 2

ProfCrash · 08-09-2011, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lillumultipass

Thanks! Well, I guess the fact that there is no "find" or "go to" function is a deal breaker for me. I am a bit surprised though, I thought there was a "go to" for the Nook as well...
Is the slider convenient to use?

Since I live in France, I can't physically check on the Nook

You will find it hard to use the BN bookstore and you will not have warranty support for a Nook if you are in France. The Nook is sold only in the US. This includes books, you must be in the US to buy books from BN or be willing to use an ISP blocker of some sort.

Since the Nook reads EPub you will be able to shop at other stores with ease but you will not be able to buy from BN.

People outside of the US have not had much luck with getting support from BN if there is a problem with their Nook.

jocampo · 08-09-2011, 10:07 PM

Buying an unsupported device is just playing the lottery or calling for problems. So please stay away of the Nook Touch. It is not officially supported outside USA.

If you really like touchscreen devices, save a bit and buy a Sony, but for the price, book's selection, customer support, a Kindle 3 is an awesome choice.

lillumultipass · 08-10-2011, 04:04 AM

Well, I thought about that as well, and I was quite worried. Then I found this website: http://www.shopereaders.com/Articles.asp?ID=238
where it seems that they offer some support for international clients.

Of course, if I have to send the Nook back to Canada, it will be costly...

jocampo · 08-10-2011, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by lillumultipass

Well, I thought about that as well, and I was quite worried. Then I found this website: http://www.shopereaders.com/Articles.asp?ID=238
where it seems that they offer some support for international clients.

Of course, if I have to send the Nook back to Canada, it will be costly...

That is a third party vendor, not B&N, will increase the price and for sure, warranty terms will be different.

The Geo restrictions will remain though, because you cannot move or alter B&N online bookstores location. You will have to find workarounds if you want to buy from B&N store and register the device. Not impossible but those are additional steps that you need to take.

But, it's up to you ...

lillumultipass · 08-11-2011, 05:15 AM

You are right! I don't think not being able to buy from B&N is a very important issue for me, but still, it reduces my options.

Regarding the price, of course, it's higher than when sold by B&N but shipping is free. However, all in all, it would probably cost more than the Kindle 3 Wifi, but not much.

No, I think the main question for me is whether I absolutely want to buy now or whether I should wait a few months for a new Kindle...

EowynCarter · 08-11-2011, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

The problem yo may encounter is that your library won't move with you to a nook or any reader other then a new Kindle.

Yup, good point.

Given that, and the "I need dictonary", I would say, get an other kindle.
Right now, getting the nook to ship to France is quite some trouble.

An opus or gen3 with the mobi firmware might do the trick, but bookeen concentrate on the ePub firmware, and you'll still need to de-DRM your amazon books.

jocampo · 08-11-2011, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by lillumultipass

You are right! I don't think not being able to buy from B&N is a very important issue for me, but still, it reduces my options.

Regarding the price, of course, it's higher than when sold by B&N but shipping is free. However, all in all, it would probably cost more than the Kindle 3 Wifi, but not much.

No, I think the main question for me is whether I absolutely want to buy now or whether I should wait a few months for a new Kindle...

If you really want to buy now, want a touchscreen, and have the money, buy a Sony.

However, if this is not a matter of live and death, you can wait until September and if Amazon is going to release any new device, those should be available then.

On the other hand, if you are in a tight budget, need the reader ASAP, get a Kindle. It is a good reader with a nice customer support.

There will be better, faster and maybe less expensive devices later. In the IT and computer world, 3 or 6 months is a lot. So don't get stuck thinking you should wait. If you want it now and have the money, enjoy it now!

polly · 08-11-2011, 05:09 PM

I share the opinion that people outside the US should stay away from the Nook. B&N goes out of their way to make it more difficult for international users to use it.

Given that you want a touch screen and French-English and English-French dictionary support, I'd recommend the Sony. It has the same Pearl screen as the Kindle. After setting up the dictionary to English-French in the preferences, looking up a word requires a double tap on the word. A screen comes up offering the translation or meaning. Tap inside that screen to open a full page dictionary with the words around the one you selected. Tap the X in the corner to close the dictionary and take you back to the book. I don't think there's anything out there that's more convenient then two taps.

Haloman800 · 08-11-2011, 11:51 PM

Get the NOOK. It's easier to navigate, it loads quicker, BN's bookstore has more books than Amazon's.. you said you're a geek, you'll have a lot of fun rooting and playing around with the Nook. You also said you liked touchscreens, the Nook has one, the kindle doesn't.

My Kindle 3 was a gift, or I'd of purchased the Nook. Get the Nook.

jocampo · 08-12-2011, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Haloman800

Get the NOOK. It's easier to navigate, it loads quicker, BN's bookstore has more books than Amazon's.. you said you're a geek, you'll have a lot of fun rooting and playing around with the Nook. You also said you liked touchscreens, the Nook has one, the kindle doesn't.

My Kindle 3 was a gift, or I'd of purchased the Nook. Get the Nook.

The user lives in France.

Nook is not sold there and there is no customer support to non USA customers.

Also, your statement about B&N having more books is not accurate. Amazon has a bigger online bookstore and a greater selection; however, there is no way to establish what specific titles are absent or present in one or another, it is a really subjective matter and user's dependent, at least for fiction books.

For computer and IT books, Amazon is better than B&N, even cheaper.

Latinandgreek · 08-12-2011, 12:18 AM

I would recommend the Sony reader.

Ryvyan · 08-13-2011, 02:23 PM

If the OP wants a touch-screen reader, the Nook would do best.

I'm outside the geographical regions for both Kindle and Nook. I went ahead with the Nook because it seems to hit all the right buttons with me. If it ever dies on me, I'll just send it back and have them service it before spending a bit more money on having it ship to the freight forwarding company to have them ship it to me.

When done that way, why would B&N not meet the warranty set out by them?

ProfCrash · 08-15-2011, 12:10 PM

BN has already told people who are outside the US that they cannot do anything for them. The lack of international support for the Nook is not some thing that we conjured up here, it is something that people on this board have encountered.

jocampo · 08-15-2011, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryvyan

If the OP wants a touch-screen reader, the Nook would do best.

I'm outside the geographical regions for both Kindle and Nook. I went ahead with the Nook because it seems to hit all the right buttons with me. If it ever dies on me, I'll just send it back and have them service it before spending a bit more money on having it ship to the freight forwarding company to have them ship it to me.

When done that way, why would B&N not meet the warranty set out by them?

Sorry, to insist on same topic, but this is the problem with that.

1st, you are right, you are able to buy whatever you want, as long as you have someone who can ship it to wherever you live (or if you are actually visiting USA)

But if something goes wrong, you will have to ship that back to someone in USA.

The thing is that most people don't know anyone living here, no relatives, no nothing, and in the case you know someone or there is a company who is willing to act as a "middle man" and help you on that, you must ship with insurance and probably tracking number. You don't want anything bad happens to your electronic device, don't you? On my case, I never ship electronic devices to my family in South America unless I use insurance and/or a reliable and good service. And most of the time is so expensive that it is better for me to send the money so they can buy it there.

For an international shipping and round-trip service, you will have to add maybe a hundred dollars, maybe more. When you take all that into account, plus the time you are going to be without the device, you have spent the same amount of money on shipping or almost, than the actual Nook's price.

So in my opinion and based on other forum members with similar horror stories, we do not believe that it is a good advice for a new user.

Again, every people is willing to buy whatever reader they think they like or need, but for non USA customers, the B&N probably is not the best purchase there. There are a lot of other ereaders that are easier to buy and provide local customer support: Sony, Kindle, Pandigital (on some countries), etc.

vishcompany · 08-15-2011, 06:24 PM

Considering these two points

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Originally Posted by lillumultipass

1. Ease of dictionary look-up: I am French but read mostly in English and from time to time, I need to lookup for some words I don't understand. Intuitively, I would think that the touch interface of the Nook would be easier to use. Am I right?

2. Ease of browsing within the book : when I read non-fiction books (like, say, economic textbooks) I would like to be able to browse rapidly and efficiently through the book, something that I found a bit lacking with my Kindle 2.

I would say, check out a Sony: It has touch, fast & easy dictionary AND a search function. No network connectivity, though.

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08-09-2011, 10:07 PM	#17
jocampo Layback feline Posts: 3,034 Karma: 6980745 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA Device: Oasis 2nd gen, Sony DPTS1, iPad Pro 10.5"	Buying an unsupported device is just playing the lottery or calling for problems. So please stay away of the Nook Touch. It is not officially supported outside USA. If you really like touchscreen devices, save a bit and buy a Sony, but for the price, book's selection, customer support, a Kindle 3 is an awesome choice.

08-10-2011, 04:04 AM	#18
lillumultipass Member Posts: 13 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2011 Device: Brand new Kindle Oasis	Well, I thought about that as well, and I was quite worried. Then I found this website: http://www.shopereaders.com/Articles.asp?ID=238 where it seems that they offer some support for international clients. Of course, if I have to send the Nook back to Canada, it will be costly...

08-11-2011, 05:15 AM	#20
lillumultipass Member Posts: 13 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2011 Device: Brand new Kindle Oasis	You are right! I don't think not being able to buy from B&N is a very important issue for me, but still, it reduces my options. Regarding the price, of course, it's higher than when sold by B&N but shipping is free. However, all in all, it would probably cost more than the Kindle 3 Wifi, but not much. No, I think the main question for me is whether I absolutely want to buy now or whether I should wait a few months for a new Kindle...

08-11-2011, 05:09 PM	#23
polly Evangelist Posts: 454 Karma: 270240 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: Sony PRS 650, PocketBook 360, Astak PocketPro (RIP), Tungsten T3	I share the opinion that people outside the US should stay away from the Nook. B&N goes out of their way to make it more difficult for international users to use it. Given that you want a touch screen and French-English and English-French dictionary support, I'd recommend the Sony. It has the same Pearl screen as the Kindle. After setting up the dictionary to English-French in the preferences, looking up a word requires a double tap on the word. A screen comes up offering the translation or meaning. Tap inside that screen to open a full page dictionary with the words around the one you selected. Tap the X in the corner to close the dictionary and take you back to the book. I don't think there's anything out there that's more convenient then two taps.

08-11-2011, 11:51 PM	#24
Haloman800 Member Posts: 18 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2011 Device: Kindle 3	Get the NOOK. It's easier to navigate, it loads quicker, BN's bookstore has more books than Amazon's.. you said you're a geek, you'll have a lot of fun rooting and playing around with the Nook. You also said you liked touchscreens, the Nook has one, the kindle doesn't. My Kindle 3 was a gift, or I'd of purchased the Nook. Get the Nook.

08-12-2011, 12:18 AM	#26
Latinandgreek Warrior Princess Posts: 5,038 Karma: 9724231 Join Date: Sep 2009 Device: PRS-505; PRS-350, PRS-T1, iPad, Aura HD	I would recommend the Sony reader.

08-13-2011, 02:23 PM	#27
Ryvyan I read what I want. Posts: 224 Karma: 372315 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Singapore Device: iPhone XS, iPhone 6, Kobo Clara	If the OP wants a touch-screen reader, the Nook would do best. I'm outside the geographical regions for both Kindle and Nook. I went ahead with the Nook because it seems to hit all the right buttons with me. If it ever dies on me, I'll just send it back and have them service it before spending a bit more money on having it ship to the freight forwarding company to have them ship it to me. When done that way, why would B&N not meet the warranty set out by them?

08-15-2011, 12:10 PM	#28
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	BN has already told people who are outside the US that they cannot do anything for them. The lack of international support for the Nook is not some thing that we conjured up here, it is something that people on this board have encountered.

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