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Old 07-26-2011, 03:53 PM   #16
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Last I checked the app was for reading books...this is for buying books...you know, cause Apple's greed pushed others off of iOS.
You can already buy books from Amazon/B&N/Kobo/... through Safari (or alternative browsers) on the iPad, Apple haven't done anything to block that. What they have done is made them remove any links from within the reading app. You can use the iPad to buy books from any of the major ebook stores, and to read books from any of the major ebook stores.
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You can already buy books from Amazon/B&N/Kobo/... through Safari (or alternative browsers) on the iPad, Apple haven't done anything to block that. What they have done is made them remove any links from within the reading app. You can use the iPad to buy books from any of the major ebook stores, and to read books from any of the major ebook stores.
Yeah, like I said in my previous post...


...HTML5 just made it easier...
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Yeah, like I said in my previous post...


...HTML5 just made it easier...
I think I'm just missing your point.
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Last I checked the app was for reading books...this is for buying books...you know, cause Apple's greed pushed others off of iOS.
The other point to make is that all of the ebook stores have decided to agree to Apple's policies and remain on the app store, so it seems that they see value in proving their apps to iOS users, even if selling to them is now a more convoluted process.
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It's the latest version of HTML-- the instructions that dictate how a webpage looks. The latest version has more support for things like video, audio, and graphics. The new HTML standard will also allow the production of sites that don't need to use the Flash plug-in. The idea is that with HTML5, instead of making an "App" for the iPad, they make a web based "HTML5 App" instead. Apple can't dictate what is in an "HTML5 App".
Thanks for putting it layman's language..

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The other point to make is that all of the ebook stores have decided to agree to Apple's policies and remain on the app store, so it seems that they see value in proving their apps to iOS users, even if selling to them is now a more convoluted process.
I'm glad you like it...looks good for you.
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The other point to make is that all of the ebook stores have decided to agree to Apple's policies and remain on the app store, so it seems that they see value in proving their apps to iOS users, even if selling to them is now a more convoluted process.
Of course there is value to having their reader apps in the store, since that is the only way to get them on an idevice.

What doesn't have value is Apple’s confiscatory practice of demanding 30% of all in-app sales. So what Kobo and others are doing is moving their apps off of the device and utilizing the power of HTML 5 to do the processing in Safari (or any other browser) instead.

This is a serious blow to Apple’s walled garden since most other apps that Apple would like to block can be handled similarly. In effect, Kobo has just blown a hole in the garden wall.
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So, are Kobo making a HTML5 web app like Ibis Reader then?

Article on Ibis Reader as a Web App on iDevices
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So it would seem.
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What doesn't have value is Apple’s confiscatory practice of demanding 30% of all in-app sales. So what Kobo and others are doing is moving their apps off of the device and utilizing the power of HTML 5 to do the processing in Safari (or any other browser) instead.
What processing? If it is just selling books, Amazon seem to be managing that just fine without the power of HTML5.
If it is reading, I'm back to saying that a web-browser seems like a sucky user experience for an ebook reader, and what does it provide that you can't do now?

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This is a serious blow to Apple’s walled garden since most other apps that Apple would like to block can be handled similarly. In effect, Kobo has just blown a hole in the garden wall.
Hyperbolic much?
Firstly Kobo haven't done anything, they've just made an announcement. Secondly this is hardly anything new. You know how you cant use Flash in an iOS browser? There are sites that provide that functionality through redirects, Apple don't seem to have collapsed yet.
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Apple can't dictate what is in an "HTML5 App".
Or could this half-a-trillion dollar company find a way using safari, it's native web browser....
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What processing? If it is just selling books, Amazon seem to be managing that just fine without the power of HTML5.
If it is reading, I'm back to saying that a web-browser seems like a sucky user experience for an ebook reader, and what does it provide that you can't do now?
I agree to an extent, but considering how much I disliked Kobo's native app it should be much harder for Kobo to develop a HTML5 app that just as bad/good as the native app.

If done right, I don't think the user will notice much of a difference, except a more fluid experience.

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Hyperbolic much?
Firstly Kobo haven't done anything, they've just made an announcement. Secondly this is hardly anything new. You know how you cant use Flash in an iOS browser? There are sites that provide that functionality through redirects, Apple don't seem to have collapsed yet.
Kobo is not the only company doing so FT has delivered and FB(Facebook) is in investigation. So if enough people buy it it's starts to snowball.

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Facebook using HTML5 to get around Apple, Google for mobile apps?
Facebook is reportedly in talks with developers about selling apps and games directly through its mobile browser in an effort to allow it to bypass app stores and the 30 percent revenue cut it gets, according to a new report from Bloomberg.(link)
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Or could this half-a-trillion dollar company find a way using safari, it's native web browser....
Well the answer is yes, leave safari as is.
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A web-based application for reading books?
Sounds awful, frankly.
Html5 apps are downloadable, work offline, and can access the local file system.
Properly coded, Kobo can get it to do everything the banned app did and more.
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I caught the same news through a mediabistro article. Pretty interesting stuff, ne? The plot thickens...
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