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Old 07-23-2011, 08:27 AM   #16
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Old 07-23-2011, 09:16 AM   #17
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Old 07-23-2011, 09:39 AM   #18
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:00 AM   #19
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:31 AM   #20
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Old 07-23-2011, 06:16 PM   #21
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I am a poor, wayfaring and humble ENFJ

Surrounded by those defensive aggressive introverts, all closed up in their inner torments. Come on introverts, open up. Life is there to be lived. Follow charming Poppea and Dixie and if you want to take risks, the undersigned. Loosen up a bit. Somebody will smile at you, one of these days.

Actually ENFJ (very little J and strongly NF) is very nice, the Teacher: maybe I became so because I am a teacher, or I became a teacher because I am so.

"I have a tremendous charisma by which many are drawn into my nurturant tutelage and/or grand schemes. I have a tremendous power to manipulate others with my phenomenal interpersonal skills and my unique salesmanship. But it's usually not meant as manipulation -- ENFJs generally believe in their dreams, and see themselves as helpers and enablers, which they usually are.
I am organized in the arena of interpersonal affairs.
" I hope so, with all those disastrous experiences I run into.

I even had sentimental dealings with introvert partners. I have one at the very moment. It is not easy, it is actually a big challenge, but the gratifications are enormous. To deal with an introvert is almost impossible for an extrovert. But. In fact, being so different gives to the partnership the widest scope. Intuition and rationality help one another. On a basis of respect, moral rectitude and high intellectual curiosity. Love of art. A common sense of humor is more difficult to achieve, but, in time (there is need of much of it with those introverts) it will come.

So long. Call if you need clarifications. The century has just started, there is plenty of time. In the meantime, while you introverts figure out what you really think, we will move along. Come on girls, let's have fun.
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Old 07-23-2011, 06:24 PM   #22
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Hey, fellow Introverts. I think we have a problem. This beppe character doesn't seem to understand that the Internet has enabled us Introverts (note the "Int..." in both. Coincidence?) to get organized, communicate, and erase all pressure of our apparent social uncoordination.

He seems to see us as a disorder. That we must "fix" ourselves. That we need a handholder to do anything/get anything done.

But we are ordered now. We run things. We control everything. They are our pawns in this connected world...the Introvertnet.

So, LET's GET HIM!

Cheers,
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Old 07-23-2011, 07:13 PM   #23
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I have tested as an INTJ. I'm annoyingly N to most people, including myself sometimes.

From what I've read, INTJ is fairly uncommon, but I'm not surprised that there would be quite a few on a forum devoted to reading. I know several at the library where I work; the work there seems to attract them.
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Old 07-24-2011, 12:58 AM   #24
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Yawn!!!

Another boring INFJ.

Quite frankly I surprised myself.



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Old 07-24-2011, 02:39 AM   #25
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According to the official test, I am an INFP, which is pretty rare and therefore self-satisfying.

On the other hand, I had been doing a lot of reading about Jung's personality types and the MBPI test, and I 'knew' what I thought I was, - and multiple choice tests are pretty easy to game, even unconsciously.

Then I ran into someone who used the MBTI in her consulting practice. She said that anyone who was an engineer was pretty automatically an E, otherwise he wouldn't be interested in things outside of his own head, especially in making them work. It took me a week of thinking about it, and I concluded she was probably right - just because you don't like being with people, it doesn't make you an introvert - and I was always fascinated by things. Since then, I've discovered that I do enjoy having people around and interacting with them, and I don't have to feel lonely.

And I knew a Jungian analyst who insisted that there are no introverts in North America; they simply are not allowed. He claimed that Europeans were much more tolerant of true introversion. I was never sure if he was kidding.
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Old 07-24-2011, 03:53 AM   #26
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Then I ran into someone who used the MBTI in her consulting practice. She said that anyone who was an engineer was pretty automatically an E, otherwise he wouldn't be interested in things outside of his own head, especially in making them work. It took me a week of thinking about it, and I concluded she was probably right - just because you don't like being with people, it doesn't make you an introvert - and I was always fascinated by things. Since then, I've discovered that I do enjoy having people around and interacting with them, and I don't have to feel lonely.
That's a very strange definition of introversion.
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Hey, fellow Introverts. I think we have a problem. This beppe character doesn't seem to understand that the Internet has enabled us Introverts (note the "Int..." in both. Coincidence?) to get organized, communicate, and erase all pressure of our apparent social uncoordination.

He seems to see us as a disorder. That we must "fix" ourselves. That we need a handholder to do anything/get anything done.

But we are ordered now. We run things. We control everything. They are our pawns in this connected world...the Introvertnet.

So, LET's GET HIM!

Cheers,
Marc (hi, beppe! ~waves~ )
Ok. I'll take this very friendly, as you obviously thought quite a lot about it.
Introverts, Internet, Introvertnet. ... Interdicts? Nahhh.

It is a fact that here in MR you Introverts abound. In the Lounge at least. Explanations? Comments? Rebuttals?

I do not see you as a disorder. Just as a pain in the neck.
The other thing about do anything or get any thing done, as Pholy seems to imply, that is simply nonsense. One thing, though. Introverts tend to be perfectionist. That is not exactly favorable toward completing projects, but if it is associated with laziness and procrastination like with my preferred Introvert, than that combination is a guarantee of successful endeavors. With a bit of torment yes, and a bit of guilt. Myself, a fantastic doer if any, I am even more lazy and procrastinator, but at least I know how to keep my cool until the last possible moment, and then turn around and keep on napping.
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Old 07-24-2011, 09:18 AM   #28
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Hmm. I was just trying to be amusingly ironic. The idea of me, as an antisocial, neurotic introvert organizing and involving myself in a group rebellion of introverts (who are noted for a general tendency to prefer more intimate socialising then large groupings) against the Other (an Other which tends to enjoy and be energized by group gatherings), when often everyone and everything is the Other; and the idea of aggressively attacking someone for calling me aggressive....well, it's all just a bit of silly irony...possibly satire, though I'm not good with writing satire, so let's just call it irony.

I shall resort to passive aggressiveness and say I shall try be less of a pain in the neck in future. This too is ironic humour (the passive aggressiveness that is). I have to tell you that it is though, because that particular irony is a gallows laugh private one.

And again, hi beppe. ~waves~

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Ok. I'll take this very friendly, as you obviously thought quite a lot about it.
Introverts, Internet, Introvertnet. ... Interdicts? Nahhh.

It is a fact that here in MR you Introverts abound. In the Lounge at least. Explanations? Comments? Rebuttals?
Many introverts are easily overwhelmed by too many people nearby, too much background noise. We're not anti-social; we just like our social in small doses.

The internet makes that easy--I only have to deal with one person, one screen, at a time. I can spend as long as I want thinking up a reply. (Even in chatrooms, the conversation is much slower than speech.) I don't have to wait for a break in the conversation or feel like I'm forcing myself into other people's space.

I don't have to give out more personal details than I'm comfortable with. Even if someone asks direct, personal, invasive questions, there's no way for them to be as forceful as in-person confrontations. The computer screen works as a buffer zone that lets me relax enough to participate.
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The hardest thing for me as a raving extrovert is determining if you introverts are lonely or not. My instinct is to make sure everyone is included, but sometimes you guys just want to be left alone. In turn, that sort of hurts my extro feelings. But you are not necessarily rejecting me personally, which I forget at the times. It feels like rejection.
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