OSX Support & DRM Nonsence - Page 2

delphidb96 · 09-30-2007, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wallcraft

On the iLiad the PID is in a file named Mobipocket_PID.txt in the root directory that is exported via USB. This file is created the first time the iLiad MobiPocket Reader is opened.

On the Pepper Pad 3 (running a version of the same Java-based reader as the iLiad) the PID is under the "settings" top level menu tab in the reader.

Okaaaaaaaay...

No such Mobipocket_PID.txt file on my Cybook.

And what part of no 'About' is not clear? At the highest 'menu', I get a list of all user-openable files on the Cybook. There *IS* no 'settings' menu, no 'about' menu, no top-level menu for deciding between books, pictures, music or other options. As I have stated numerous times, this is version 0.91 - a beta release of the firmware. All this may well change with the firmware update.

Derek

JSWolf · 09-30-2007, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by delphidb96

Okaaaaaaaay...

No such Mobipocket_PID.txt file on my Cybook.

And what part of no 'About' is not clear? At the highest 'menu', I get a list of all user-openable files on the Cybook. There *IS* no 'settings' menu, no 'about' menu, no top-level menu for deciding between books, pictures, music or other options. As I have stated numerous times, this is version 0.91 - a beta release of the firmware. All this may well change with the firmware update.

Derek

How does Bookeen expect you to be able to test the Gen3 if you are unable to purchase books for it?

delphidb96 · 09-30-2007, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

How does Bookeen expect you to be able to test the Gen3 if you are unable to purchase books for it?

I *can* purchase Secure Mobipocket ebooks, I just can't open them on the Cybook. However, I've got MobiReader 6 on my PC and my Axim...

Derek

JSWolf · 10-01-2007, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by delphidb96

I *can* purchase Secure Mobipocket ebooks, I just can't open them on the Cybook. However, I've got MobiReader 6 on my PC and my Axim...

Derek

Well, a review won't be all that great till you are able to purchase Mobi format books to use with the Gen3.

delphidb96 · 10-01-2007, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Well, a review won't be all that great till you are able to purchase Mobi format books to use with the Gen3.

I agree with you.

Derek

JSWolf · 10-01-2007, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by delphidb96

I agree with you.

Derek

A big part of using the reader is how hassle free it is to go online and purchase Mobi format books you can use with your device. PaperbackDigital seems to (overall) be the cheapest place to get Mobi format books with BooksOnBoard being a close follower. And to purchase books at PaperbackDigital, all you need is to tell the site what your PID(s) are/is. But if you don't have that then it's not going to work to purchase books.

HarryT · 10-02-2007, 08:24 AM

You don't even need a Mobi ID to buy books from FictionWise. You just need it to download your purchased book.

JSWolf · 10-03-2007, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

You don't even need a Mobi ID to buy books from FictionWise. You just need it to download your purchased book.

How then do you read your DRM laden MobiPocket formatted book on your device if you do not have your PID for that device?

HarryT · 10-03-2007, 02:40 AM

Clearly, you can't. All I was saying is that you can buy it without the MobiPocket ID. You need to enter at least one ID in order to be able to download it.

BTW, "DRM laden" strikes me as being a very strange expression. DRM is merely an encryption mechanism; it doesn't make the book any larger or "weightier", which is what the expression "laden" implies to me.

delphidb96 · 10-03-2007, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Clearly, you can't. All I was saying is that you can buy it without the MobiPocket ID. You need to enter at least one ID in order to be able to download it.

BTW, "DRM laden" strikes me as being a very strange expression. DRM is merely an encryption mechanism; it doesn't make the book any larger or "weightier", which is what the expression "laden" implies to me.

Yeah it does make it 'weightier' - in the sense of adding data NOT necessary for the primary function - reading!

Derek

HarryT · 10-03-2007, 03:17 AM

It clearly makes the software which decrypts the book "weightier", but I don't believe it adds any overhead to the book itself. Most encryption methods simply substitute one character for another; they don't, generally speaking, change the number of characters in the text.

NatCh · 10-03-2007, 10:52 AM

I can see DRM could be viewed as adding metaphorical weight, in the sense that it makes dealing with the book more burdensome.

And I'd far rather type out 'DRM laden' frequently than 'DRM encumbered' which is probably more accurate, but harder to type.

Maybe 'DRM burdened?'

IceHand · 10-03-2007, 11:23 AM

Let's make a verb out of it! "DRMed"!

...

No, let's not

HarryT · 10-03-2007, 12:06 PM

DRM-blessed?
DRM-resplendent?
DRM-replete?
DRM-fulfilled?

NatCh · 10-03-2007, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceHand

Let's make a verb out of it! "DRMed"!

...

No, let's not

Too late, we've been using "DRMed" around here for quite some time now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

DRM-blessed?
DRM-resplendent?
DRM-replete?
DRM-fulfilled?

gorged, bloated, stuffed, befouled, defiled, corrupted, desecrated, ....

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10-02-2007, 08:24 AM	#22
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	You don't even need a Mobi ID to buy books from FictionWise. You just need it to download your purchased book.

10-03-2007, 02:40 AM	#24
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Clearly, you can't. All I was saying is that you can buy it without the MobiPocket ID. You need to enter at least one ID in order to be able to download it. BTW, "DRM laden" strikes me as being a very strange expression. DRM is merely an encryption mechanism; it doesn't make the book any larger or "weightier", which is what the expression "laden" implies to me.

10-03-2007, 03:17 AM	#26
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	It clearly makes the software which decrypts the book "weightier", but I don't believe it adds any overhead to the book itself. Most encryption methods simply substitute one character for another; they don't, generally speaking, change the number of characters in the text.

10-03-2007, 10:52 AM	#27
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	I can see DRM could be viewed as adding metaphorical weight, in the sense that it makes dealing with the book more burdensome. And I'd far rather type out 'DRM laden' frequently than 'DRM encumbered' which is probably more accurate, but harder to type. Maybe 'DRM burdened?'

10-03-2007, 11:23 AM	#28
IceHand Linux User Posts: 323 Karma: 13682 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany Device: Kindle 3	Let's make a verb out of it! "DRMed"! ... No, let's not

10-03-2007, 12:06 PM	#29
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	DRM-blessed? DRM-resplendent? DRM-replete? DRM-fulfilled?

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