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Old 06-01-2011, 11:43 AM   #16
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What do you been by ''The response can slow down if it gets cold''?

Because hardware doesn't slow down just because it gets cold, if that was what you were implying. Minus degrees are another story, though.
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eInk is electrochemical. It contains a moving fluid that can absolutely respond differently with temperature. I don't know off hand what temps result in noticeable changes in eink speed though.
ApK's response is what I was referring to. Many users in colder climates have reported a noticeable lag in page turns/refreshes at the bus stop or other places where the screen gets cold.
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:51 AM   #17
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Bah! It's a reader, not a baby. It could get stepped on anywhere. Apply reasonable protection and enjoy it. That's what the multi-week battery life and sun-readable display are for.
Have to agree 100%
Take it... be sensible... enjoy it.

I'd take a different position if they still cost $359 like I paid for mine, but frankly, people take things camping all the time that are more fragile and more expensive to replace than a Kindle without thinking twice about it.
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:52 AM   #18
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eInk is electrochemical. It contains a moving fluid that can absolutely respond differently with temperature. I don't know off hand what temps result in noticeable changes in eink speed though.

Put your Kindle in a waterproof case, which will protect the screen as well, find a decently protective place in your pack to carry it, and enjoy!

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NO intention of being disrespectful ApK; but bottom line everything is electrochemical....

For E-ink specifically its a fluid with reacts to electric impulses.
Electromagnetic actually, as every electric field has a magnetic field associated to it; and every magnetic field has an electric field in presence of a conductor of an electrical field associated to it.
That being said, usually metaloid compounds react to temperature. As most devices are designed to work under "standard conditions" and a a range (+/- X) (ie: 1 atm preasure, 25°C); when going off limits, some failures may occur.
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Old 06-01-2011, 12:05 PM   #19
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As most devices are designed to work under "standard conditions" and a a range (+/- X) (ie: 1 atm preasure, 25°C); when going off limits, some failures may occur.
From Kindle documentation:
Operating temperature — 32°F to 95°F (0°C to 35°C).
Storage temperature — 14°F to 113°F (-10°C to 45°C).

In case anyone was curious.
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Old 06-01-2011, 12:41 PM   #20
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I have taken my K1 car camping and it was just fine. If you have a good cover I think you should be fine. You might want to take a look for a slightly more sturdy cover then others.

Grab some silica packs, put it in a cover, carry it in a ziploc, store it in a water proof stuff sack, and you should be fine. Heck, you could probably leave out the silica pack and ziploc.
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I am part of a men's book club. Old farts drinking and talking about literature. In the summer, we do a "book camp", and the Kindles are in tents and on tree stumps, and dangerously close to beer. This is in September, when the dew is on the grass. No problems yet, at least with the machines.
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:39 PM   #22
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yep, bringing it out to read in the park would be great, but camping with it would not, unless you don't mind calling Amazon CS.
Bah! I say again.
However, there is camping and then there is camping.
If he's asking is it tough enough to withstand submergence when the kayak goes over the waterfall and then a free fall or two while climbing the sheer face of the mesa, then yeah, he's probably better of with a small paperback.
But driving up to the lake and reading in the camp chair? Heck, I bring the Kindle AND the guitar.

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Old 06-01-2011, 01:42 PM   #23
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you should leave it at home, really. what if you accidentally step on it, sleep on it, sit on it, or drop something on it? and those are just about the over-sensitive screen. not mention the humidity, the dust, the sudden rain, the bugs... you're camping so all kinds of ridiculous things can happen.
what!!!???? are you channeling JSWolf all of a sudden!?

I camp with mine, hardcore and car camping, ski with it, and have even gone riding (horse) with it. adventure on and welcome to the forums!
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:48 PM   #24
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NO intention of being disrespectful ApK; but bottom line everything is electrochemical....
not everything uses a fluid the viscosity of which can change it's performance even within the operating temps.

This does not need to be overly theoretical. Go observe the page refreshes before and after sticking your Kindle in the fridge for an hour.
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:50 PM   #25
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I've never taken mine out of the house. I just bought a splash proof case that was on sale so who knows that may change. I'm more concern in losing or having someone steal mine then it getting weather damage though.

I haven't had the cold page turn problem since I upgraded my firmware. I think as long as the screen is protected and the device is protected from moisture you should be fine.
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:52 PM   #26
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I'll be taking a paperback (or two) with me,

not my Kindle, when I leave for a wilderness whitewater kayaking/hiking trip in the northern Brooks Range (above Arctic Circle in Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, Alaska) in a couple of weeks. While the Kindle would probably be fine I just don't want to have to worry about it. So now I'm stuck finding one or two books that don't weigh much or take up much space -- it's a 2-3 hour flight each way in a two-seater plane and I have to carry everything I need for two weeks in my kayak, so weight and space are limited. I've gotten very spoiled, having multiple books and magazines on my Kindle at any given time, so I can match my mood and reading material. Maybe it will be OK to spend long hours just sitting and observing untouched nature, though! (In 24-hour daylight, of course.)
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Yippee! camping

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Looks the same as if it were dropped on that hardwood floor. <yawn.>

Show me some campfire damage and a marshmallow roasting stick skewered through one and I'll get excited!
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Looks the same as if it were dropped on that hardwood floor. <yawn.>
Yep ...that's why I have no qualms about taking my finest bone china on campouts.
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Yep ...that's why I have no qualms about taking my finest bone china on campouts.
Of course. Anything less would be uncivilized:



Like I said, there's camping, and then there's camping.

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