drug vs dragged - Page 2

DixieGal · 03-24-2011, 11:58 AM

I looked it up, found "dialect past of drag." drug(dragged), brung(brought), and swum(swam) are the few times when I will be rude enough to correct someone who is speaking. And my Mom would say "learnt" instead of "taught" as often as possible because it bugged me and amused her.

queentess · 03-24-2011, 12:21 PM

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I'm from Ohio in the US. I grew up with "drug", but both are considered acceptable here.

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Originally Posted by DixieGal

I looked it up, found "dialect past of drag." drug(dragged), brung(brought), and swum(swam) are the few times when I will be rude enough to correct someone who is speaking. And my Mom would say "learnt" instead of "taught" as often as possible because it bugged me and amused her.

The regional thing that gets me is "was". As in "We was going to go to the store". IT'S WRONG. DON'T DO IT.

I use the word "soda" all the time because it irritates my mom... she prefers "pop".

DixieGal · 03-24-2011, 12:33 PM

My degree is English, but I am southern. So good grammar is natural to me because of a lifetime of studying, teaching, and proofreading. I can parse "y'all"

But I have to fake the folksy grammar, especially around family members and in-laws who see it as "uppity." Have any of y'all felt, like me, shunned for speaking correctly?

HarryT · 03-24-2011, 12:43 PM

One thing that slightly saddens me is that the distinction between "who" and "whom" seems to be disappearing in modern English. It's such a simple thing, and I think it adds clarity to use them correctly.

DixieGal · 03-24-2011, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

One thing that slightly saddens me is that the distinction between "who" and "whom" seems to be disappearing in modern English. It's such a simple thing, and I think it adds clarity to use them correctly.

Also, any time some character on TV is supposed to be educated, the writers' give themselves away by misusing subjective "I" and objective "me." That makes me cringe.

mr ploppy · 03-24-2011, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DixieGal

I looked it up, found "dialect past of drag." drug(dragged), brung(brought), and swum(swam) are the few times when I will be rude enough to correct someone who is speaking. And my Mom would say "learnt" instead of "taught" as often as possible because it bugged me and amused her.

I brung you that there book you was wanting to borrow off of us.

DixieGal · 03-24-2011, 01:06 PM

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I brung you that there book you was wanting to borrow off of us.

Masterful!

HarryT · 03-24-2011, 01:27 PM

At least you got "borrow" right. In this country, poorly-educated people often mix up "borrow" and "lend". Eg, "Will you borrow me that DVD" (or whatever).

wayrad · 03-24-2011, 01:54 PM

One regionalism I've always enjoyed is the Appalachian/Southeastern US "might could". It's admirably concise, compared to "might be able to".

Worldwalker · 03-24-2011, 01:59 PM

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Have any of y'all felt, like me, shunned for speaking correctly?

There's a reason I can type fluent l33t.

Any online game, or the forums thereof, is full of people who will laugh at someone who types in standard English instead of teenage text-message abbreviations and bad spelling. I can't force myself to misspell words, but I can type in numbers and otherwise stupidly so I can fly under their radar.

ClairePMR · 03-24-2011, 02:23 PM

Had to research this one for some editing that I did a few weeks ago. I was absolutely positive that it was wrong, but the author insisted it was correct, so I did some digging. I found what many of you have noted: it's a dialect version of the accurate past-tense "dragged" and is most commonly used in the US Southeast and Midwest. It is not considered accurate and acceptable English by most editors except as a deliberate affectation. When I see it in anything I edit, I change it, unless there is a desperately compelling reason to keep it as is. To me, it sounds wrong and ignorant of proper grammar and usage. It's a personal pet peeve. The only proper use of the word "drug" is when referring to a chemical or pharmaceutical preparation.

ClairePMR · 03-24-2011, 02:30 PM

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One thing that slightly saddens me is that the distinction between "who" and "whom" seems to be disappearing in modern English. It's such a simple thing, and I think it adds clarity to use them correctly.

Had a discussion about this just yesterday with an author for whom I was editing a 70K-word novella. She insisted that "whom" was not used at all in "currently accepted" grammar, citing that "'who' is always correct while 'whom' rarely is, so it should stay." Since she had final control of the document, I'm sure it stayed as she originally wrote it. The sentence was: "To who are you giving that gift?"

Eek!

queentess · 03-24-2011, 02:34 PM

Ooo, I have another one! Could of, would of, should of. It's a written interpretation of could've, would've, should've. And it irritates me to no end.

queentess · 03-24-2011, 02:37 PM

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Had a discussion about this just yesterday with an author for whom I was editing a 70K-word novella. She insisted that "whom" was not used at all in "currently accepted" grammar, citing that "'who' is always correct while 'whom' rarely is, so it should stay." Since she had final control of the document, I'm sure it stayed as she originally wrote it. The sentence was: "To who are you giving that gift?"

Eek!

I'm rather with the author on that one, though I would never say currently accepted grammar... I would say currently accepted word usage. I know it's not "proper", but it's become so common that it's correct just by popularity. That said, even though it doesn't bother me in conversation, I don't yet think it's to the point where it's acceptable in written language.

ClairePMR · 03-24-2011, 02:40 PM

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Ooo, I have another one! Could of, would of, should of. It's a written interpretation of could've, would've, should've. And it irritates me to no end.

Yes!!! That one drives me nuts! And don't get me going on the whole homonym thing. The one that irritates me most is the misuse of there, their, and they're. Oh, and loose and lose are used incorrectly more often than not. And then there's then and than.

(The beast has been unleashed!)

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03-24-2011, 11:58 AM	#16
DixieGal Hi There! Posts: 7,473 Karma: 2930523 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ft Lauderdale Device: iPad	I looked it up, found "dialect past of drag." drug(dragged), brung(brought), and swum(swam) are the few times when I will be rude enough to correct someone who is speaking. And my Mom would say "learnt" instead of "taught" as often as possible because it bugged me and amused her.

03-24-2011, 12:33 PM	#18
DixieGal Hi There! Posts: 7,473 Karma: 2930523 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ft Lauderdale Device: iPad	My degree is English, but I am southern. So good grammar is natural to me because of a lifetime of studying, teaching, and proofreading. I can parse "y'all" But I have to fake the folksy grammar, especially around family members and in-laws who see it as "uppity." Have any of y'all felt, like me, shunned for speaking correctly?

03-24-2011, 12:43 PM	#19
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	One thing that slightly saddens me is that the distinction between "who" and "whom" seems to be disappearing in modern English. It's such a simple thing, and I think it adds clarity to use them correctly.

03-24-2011, 01:27 PM	#23
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	At least you got "borrow" right. In this country, poorly-educated people often mix up "borrow" and "lend". Eg, "Will you borrow me that DVD" (or whatever).

03-24-2011, 01:54 PM	#24
wayrad Fanatic Posts: 551 Karma: 1121392 Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA Device: HTC One M8	One regionalism I've always enjoyed is the Appalachian/Southeastern US "might could". It's admirably concise, compared to "might be able to".

03-24-2011, 02:23 PM	#26
ClairePMR Groupie Posts: 164 Karma: 1030058 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New England Device: PocketBook Color, Kindle, EB1150, Galaxy Tab 2 10.1, Surface Pro 2017	Had to research this one for some editing that I did a few weeks ago. I was absolutely positive that it was wrong, but the author insisted it was correct, so I did some digging. I found what many of you have noted: it's a dialect version of the accurate past-tense "dragged" and is most commonly used in the US Southeast and Midwest. It is not considered accurate and acceptable English by most editors except as a deliberate affectation. When I see it in anything I edit, I change it, unless there is a desperately compelling reason to keep it as is. To me, it sounds wrong and ignorant of proper grammar and usage. It's a personal pet peeve. The only proper use of the word "drug" is when referring to a chemical or pharmaceutical preparation.

03-24-2011, 02:34 PM	#28
queentess Reading is sexy Posts: 1,303 Karma: 544517 Join Date: Apr 2009 Device: none	Ooo, I have another one! Could of, would of, should of. It's a written interpretation of could've, would've, should've. And it irritates me to no end.

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