Overdrive Margin Problem - Page 2

JSWolf · 02-27-2011, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TrendyGuy

Then nothing at all. Is there a way to got the right page number to be as close to the edge? It seems like the kobo is forcing it to move over and then using the margins I set based off that.

I'll have to have another look at the Kobo and see what is going on.

zoran · 02-28-2011, 12:44 AM

Just to remind that epub is a container. It could be open and
changed in a way user likes it.
Well, one might remove css file at all and reiterate through
Calibre. It will give instead vanilla css file, that is just fine to
my need. Some italics would not show the way it was intended
by the author. No big deal.
The question is how to open the file? Sigil or simply unzip it,
whatever app or command line binary one finds well suited.

3d0g · 02-28-2011, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TrendyGuy

So I did whatever to my book and brought it into calibre and converted it for the kobo. After doing this I am still getting large margins. I even went a step further and went into the css and set all margins on everything to 0, got rid of the text-indent and everything. Transfer it and there are still the margins. I am thinking the kobo itself is adding it and there is nothing I can do about it. Since everything is takin out, the page numbers that show up on the right side of the page are being placed in to the text on the page.

Is there a way to set this up right in calibre so I can get rid of these margins?

edit: When I look at the book in calibre the only thing on the margins is 5pt on the left and right. While on the device there is at least a half an inch on the left, top, and right and around a full inch or more on the bottom.

You must be missing a step somewhere, or the EPUB format on that book is bad - I do the same to clean up margins and it works every time.

Charbucks · 02-28-2011, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 3d0g

You must be missing a step somewhere, or the EPUB format on that book is bad - I do the same to clean up margins and it works every time.

Can you confirm what "works every time" means exactly? I've got the same problem as the OP - setting margins to "0" results in visible margins on the device itself, with the page number on the right overlapped. Here's a photo of what I'm talking about - are you able to get smaller margins than this?

By comparison, a PDF with zero margins at the top results in text that actually goes all the way to the top of the screen, so I know that the screen is capable of displaying smaller margins. I think the huge margin on the bottom is a result of the "book name - # of ##" display that is always shown, with no method of disabling. I've added my support to the request to hide this info on Kobo's zendesk page (here), if that feedback ever gets taken into account.

pholy · 02-28-2011, 01:53 PM

TG - As I recall, the original Kobo, up thru rev. 1.4 kept everything in the sqlite database and did not remove entries from the database when the epub file was deleted or changed. You could force a new entry by changing the file name, or use Calibre to delete the database entry for the original book. I'm not sure if software versions 1.7 and 1.8 have the same problem, but I think Calibre can still delete database entries. Then reload your book with its modified CSS.

46jimbo · 02-28-2011, 08:45 PM

Charbuck's screen looks perfectly readable to me. I don't think it's going to get any better than that!

KjellM · 02-28-2011, 09:26 PM

You could try negative margins - I have been meaning to try this, just haven't had the time to play around. If this works it would likely make the page number overlap worse (but it might move the page number over too !).

Charbucks · 03-01-2011, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 46jimbo

Charbuck's screen looks perfectly readable to me. I don't think it's going to get any better than that!

I agree, it is very readable. However, it's odd that with a css setting of "0" margins, there are still obviously margins (particularly on the bottom, which I'd still like to be able to change). Perhaps negative margins is the key for reducing the margins (on the top/sides at least).

JSWolf · 03-01-2011, 01:12 PM

I may be in town tomorrow. So in that case, I'll give a stop over to borders. I just have to find my SD card and load up a few ePub to try out.

Jim Lester · 03-01-2011, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TrendyGuy

Thanks for the reply. I have tried the 3 books on my Nook. The margins are much smaller than the kobo, almost to the edge of the screen on my books. There is a slight variation on the Nook but no where near as large as the kobo.

The nook is using a custom (for B&N) css settings. I don't remember for the kobo, if you can add a userstylesheet.css and have the device honor it (and where to place it on the device to get it to honor it). If so, you can do interesting things (such as changing the margins, and turning of the "page" numbers). For RMSDK based devices/applications the settings in userstylesheet.css will override the book settings, so there is no need to break DRM to get the settings to apply.

IIRC, there were a few forum threads describing the settings for the userstylesheet.css (look for posts by Peter Sorotokin).

Edit: This applies only to ePubs, and not to PDFs, btw.

Charbucks · 03-02-2011, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Lester

For RMSDK based devices/applications the settings in userstylesheet.css will override the book settings, so there is no need to break DRM to get the settings to apply.

IIRC, there were a few forum threads describing the settings for the userstylesheet.css (look for posts by Peter Sorotokin).

Edit: This applies only to ePubs, and not to PDFs, btw.

I found a userStyle.css file located at /.kobo/Adobe/ade/userStyle.css (from memory, I think the path is something like that). However, if I edit it, I don't see any changes. Furthermore, if I unmount the device, let it update its database, then reconnect, my changes will have disappeared from this file. I believe there's some kind of override built in to prevent changes.

TrendyGuy · 03-03-2011, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

I may be in town tomorrow. So in that case, I'll give a stop over to borders. I just have to find my SD card and load up a few ePub to try out.

Were you able to try it out?

JSWolf · 03-03-2011, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TrendyGuy

Were you able to try it out?

Not yet. Sorry.

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02-28-2011, 12:44 AM	#17
zoran himself Posts: 576 Karma: 11226 Join Date: May 2010 Device: Kobo	Just to remind that epub is a container. It could be open and changed in a way user likes it. Well, one might remove css file at all and reiterate through Calibre. It will give instead vanilla css file, that is just fine to my need. Some italics would not show the way it was intended by the author. No big deal. The question is how to open the file? Sigil or simply unzip it, whatever app or command line binary one finds well suited.

02-28-2011, 01:53 PM	#20
pholy Booklegger Posts: 1,801 Karma: 7999816 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Device: BeBook(1 & 2010), PEZ, PRS-505, Kobo BT, PRS-T1, Playbook, Kobo Touch	TG - As I recall, the original Kobo, up thru rev. 1.4 kept everything in the sqlite database and did not remove entries from the database when the epub file was deleted or changed. You could force a new entry by changing the file name, or use Calibre to delete the database entry for the original book. I'm not sure if software versions 1.7 and 1.8 have the same problem, but I think Calibre can still delete database entries. Then reload your book with its modified CSS.

02-28-2011, 08:45 PM	#21
46jimbo Zealot Posts: 130 Karma: 143194 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Toronto, CANADA Device: Kobo Touch + Kobo Aura	Charbuck's screen looks perfectly readable to me. I don't think it's going to get any better than that!

02-28-2011, 09:26 PM	#22
KjellM Connoisseur Posts: 58 Karma: 155580 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: BC, Canada Device: Kobo, Glo HD, Aura ONE	You could try negative margins - I have been meaning to try this, just haven't had the time to play around. If this works it would likely make the page number overlap worse (but it might move the page number over too !).

03-01-2011, 01:12 PM	#24
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,171 Karma: 148951761 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I may be in town tomorrow. So in that case, I'll give a stop over to borders. I just have to find my SD card and load up a few ePub to try out.

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