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Old 02-25-2011, 11:40 AM   #16
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IMO it actually needs to exist before it has a real impact. (Though I will say it seems likely to exist.)

I will say that I believe it gets a little closer to a device that can work very well in an education market. However, battery life will need to improve drastically; you don't want your notepad and books to conk out during 6th period....
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Old 02-25-2011, 12:14 PM   #17
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Old 02-25-2011, 12:46 PM   #18
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It does exist and at least one person has already bought one
watch his videos here

http://www.jessebandersen.com/2011/0...plication.html
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Old 02-25-2011, 03:05 PM   #19
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It does exist and at least one person has already bought one
watch his videos here

http://www.jessebandersen.com/2011/0...plication.html
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You need good lighting conditions. There's also a bit of glare going on because of the top layer which is glass and has an anti glare film. If you have a Kindle and compare it you will notice a big difference.
This gives me pause. I had the glare thing with the Sony 900 and I struggled in poor lighting conditions.
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Old 02-25-2011, 04:29 PM   #20
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With stylus in hand? I looked at the pictures and I haven't seen big friendly page-turning buttons conveniently under the thumb like modern readers have.
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Old 02-25-2011, 05:41 PM   #21
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I don't get why this is better than the Nook Color. Why is greyscale LCD supposed to be an advantage? I mean, doesn't the NC show books in B&W as well? It's not like it colorizes them...

Indeed, I remember back in the early days of PCs, people had Green and Amber monitors because supposedly they were easier on the eyes than B&W ones (Amber ones anyway). Though I doubt they actually were.

For $200, I would expect something a lot better. Aren't there already cheap B&W LCD e-readers? Like $100 or under?
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Old 02-25-2011, 05:58 PM   #22
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I don't get why this is better than the Nook Color. Why is greyscale LCD supposed to be an advantage? I mean, doesn't the NC show books in B&W as well? It's not like it colorizes them...

Indeed, I remember back in the early days of PCs, people had Green and Amber monitors because supposedly they were easier on the eyes than B&W ones (Amber ones anyway). Though I doubt they actually were.

For $200, I would expect something a lot better. Aren't there already cheap B&W LCD e-readers? Like $100 or under?
This is more than an ereader. Look at the ASUS product page posted earlier.

Think of it as a greyscale tablet optimized for reading and note taking.

Personally, I'll be more interested in a color model.

I used to use an Amdek amber monitor on my old PC, connected to a Hercules graphics card. (I still have the old PC on a shelf, but no longer have the monitor.)
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Old 02-25-2011, 06:21 PM   #23
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I don't get why this is better than the Nook Color. Why is greyscale LCD supposed to be an advantage?
because its a reflective lcd so it uses less batty power than a full color emissive LCD. The device itself is based around note taking with a Wacom pressure sensitive Wacom stylus. It's also a larger display than the Nook color.

If your requirements don't include reflective display, 12+ hr battery life, Wacom Stylus note taking(or sketching) and a camera to take pictures during lectures etc for under $200, which appears to be the case since you don't get it, than for you it's not better. For others it is.
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Old 02-25-2011, 06:42 PM   #24
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I'm interested, but can't justify another purchase at the moment. But down the road, yes, very interested. I've had good luck in the past with Wacom tech (including an 8-year old Graphire tablet with stylus+mouse that still works great), and I'd use it as a digital notepad, not an ereader. If it last 3 years, that's about 18 cents a day to put an end to the miscellaneous notepads I have all over the house. I constantly take notes about various things.
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Old 02-25-2011, 06:51 PM   #25
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because its a reflective lcd so it uses less batty power than a full color emissive LCD. The device itself is based around note taking with a Wacom pressure sensitive Wacom stylus. It's also a larger display than the Nook color.

If your requirements don't include reflective display, 12+ hr battery life, Wacom Stylus note taking(or sketching) and a camera to take pictures during lectures etc for under $200, which appears to be the case since you don't get it, than for you it's not better. For others it is.
A Wacom Bamboo by itself is $99, and that's without the LCD screen, camera or reader functions. Don't forget, folks, this thing is a "Note Taker", and that's what it's optimized for. I paid $200 for a LiveScribe pen that can output PDF files if you use the special paper, and have taken hundreds of pages of notes in spite of its limitations.

I think "less than $200" is a bargain for an 8" reader with a Wacom screen/stylus and camera. That being said, from the reviews I've read, it seems to need a little more maturation in terms of its UI, but I'll definitely be keeping my eye on it.
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Old 02-25-2011, 08:02 PM   #26
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I just bought a PB 602 which is nice but I might've waited for this to mature had Asus not canceled its earlier projects.

Seems like a great device for those of us that work with pdf files. For the casual reader, I don't see a $60 advantage.
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Old 02-25-2011, 08:07 PM   #27
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Another game-changer? How many games are we playing?
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Old 02-25-2011, 08:26 PM   #28
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I think it'd be completely interesting to have an ebook reader with such great note taking programs. I'm addicted to list making.

But even if this were in my price range, I wouldn't go buy one right now. I'd wait until my Kindle was broken/in need of being replaced. And by then, who knows what will be out?
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The ASUS product page is here: http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=IrZFXz2AcdRvL7L6

I don't see this as a serious threat to "everything", precisely because it's grey scale.

I'm not counting ASUS out. After all, they largely created the netbook market, with the original ASUS eee PC.

It's using Linux as the OS, which presumably means the Xandros flavor ASUS created for the eee. So one question will be what third party stuff will appear that will run on it.

I expect a color version of this down the road. That will be interesting.
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