Can't delete Archived Item on Kindle3

[cybmole]

Originally Posted by chyron8472

I hear you. ...

As for bulk deletion, there are two options:
1) connect and browse to the files on your Kindle from your computer, go into the "documents" folder and delete the folders/files within corresponding to which books you want to remove;

or 2) connect to your Kindle via Calibre, ..

You shouldn't have to delete hundreds of books individually from your Kindle's Home screen. Deleting the files en masse from Windows Explorer or Calibre is more efficient.

thanks _ I had considered that, but was unsure if the Kindle would get confused by having its files deleted via a PC app like Calibre, or via Windows explorer. I Know that it is safe to ADD files that way - I do it all the time.

I am pretty sure that I confused Ks indexing system one time by replacing books with updated / edited version without firstly deleting the old copies via Kindle's own interface.

[chyron8472]

well, if you put two separate files on your Kindle, it will display them both. I think that if you edit some part of the metadata of a book in Calibre such that Calibre changes the filename/folder that it uses when uploading the book to the Kindle, Calibre will not overwrite the first version of the file on the device.

I do know of times where I've been confused more than once when I was editing/reformatting a book and uploaded it to my Kindle to find the changes didn't stick... only to realize after several attempts that what I was looking at on the Kindle was the original file which had not been overwritten or deleted , and that the new file was on my Kindle, just not on the page I was looking at.

Calibre does overwrite the older file on the device if the filename and folder it uploads to are the same.

[cybmole]

i was thinking more of the case where you fix a few typos, mess with formatting, maybe delete some unwanted dedication & acknowledgement pages & appendices, then send the book back to kindle with the same metadata as before. not sure what that does to existing K.s search book word indexing, as the indexes live in hidden system files & I have not looked too closely.

[chyron8472]

I don't know. All I'm saying is that if you reupload a book via Calibre after having changed something in it and the first version is still there or something, I would hazard a bet that Calibre, for some reason, copied a new file on to the Kindle rather than overwriting the old one.


In a similar vein, I once decided to be picky about the filename and folder structure that Calibre uses to upload books to my Kindle, so I told it to use "{tag}/{series}/{title}". Now, I have the book The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (first book) and The Ultimate Hitchhiker's Guide (5 books), but I renamed the Ultimate book to read "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" as well since after all it is the name of the actual series.

To my amusement and slight annoyance I found that, with my current naming scheme, if I upload the first HHGG book, it overwrote the Ultimate book on my Kindle since Calibre named them the same when uploading them. If I changed it to {tag}/{series}/{title}_{id} or {tag}/{series}/{title}_{series_index} (and ensured that the series index number for Ultimate was 0, while the first book's was 1) it wouldn't do that anymore.

...not that I need both books on my Kindle at the same time, but I found it interesting that as Calibre has a column in the Library view which lists which books are On Device, if I uploaded one book, the check mark for the other book disappeared.

[anth82]

Originally Posted by Tiersten

I had an extra copy of the American dictionary in my Archive and I just deleted it from the Your Orders section of Manage Your Kindle. It disappeared from the Archived Items list. The two dictionaries are still on my Kindle is still there and both work as a dictionary.

Thanks for all the help guys.

As I said in the OP it isn't in the Orders Section on the website.

I know it isn't a big deal and doesn't really effect anything on the Kindle but it is really annoying me!

[anth82]

Originally Posted by chyron8472

No, "Restart" will not reset to factory defaults. "Reset to Factory Defaults" does. ...(don't worry, the "Reset to Factory Defaults" does give you a big, wordy warning message if you select it.)

"Restart"ing your Kindle is like rebooting your PC, basically.


The only advantages to having wifi/3g off are that the battery life is (noticeably) longer, and Archived Items stays at zero after you reboot, if that's your goal. It doesn't delete files or remove collections or anything.

btw, don't freak out if you restart your Kindle and your collections and such say zero for 5 seconds or so. The Kindle takes a small while after rebooting to refresh the Home menu as to what is loaded on it.





First, he was talking about removing it from Archived Items, which is not a list of items which are on the Kindle, but rather a list of items available on the associated account at Amazon for immediate download.

Second, yes you CAN hide the dictionary from the Home menu by putting it in a Collection. I have a collection called "Misc." in which I place my Kindle User Guide, my Calibre Quick Start Guide, My Clippings, and The New Oxford American Dictionary.

Items that are in collections do not appear in main Home Menu screen if you have the Home Menu sorted by Collections. If you have it sorted by Title, Author or Most Recent First, yes they do. If you have it sorted by Collections, no they don't.

I do have both dictionaries on the Kindle and are both functioning and in a collection but it's just this one in the Archive that is really annoying me!

[Tiersten]

Originally Posted by cybmole

the archived copy at amazon is needed if you ever install a Kindle for ... app on any other hardware, as per my 1st post. So delete that archived dictionary at your peril as customer services cannot/will not re-instate it.

( you are warned somewhere in Amazon blurb that if you delete stuff from your archived orders, via the manage your kindle page, then whatever you deleted is gone forever, and if you want it back you'll have to pay again.
tricky with the dictionary because although it is free to begin with, I could not find a copy for sale anywhere in the Kindle section!

I emailed Kindle CS and they added back the New Oxford American Dictionary item to my list. This specific dictionary seems to be an exception to their rule as you can't obtain it yourself so they're willing to restore it at least for me.

[Hollow Man]

I never had any Archived Items on my Kindle until I decided to put the Kindle app on my iPhone. As soon as I did, the New Oxford American Dictionary showed up in the Archived Items. It is clearly for iPhone only, since it cannot be downloaded to the Kindle, either via the Kindle (error says "This title is not available on Kindle"), or by using the "Deliver to" option on the "Manage Your Kindle" web page (option to deliver to Kindle is greyed out).

I downloaded a fresh copy to my iPhone, but that does not removed it from the Archived Items folder on the Kindle, I assume because this folder shows any title that you own that isn't currently on the Kindle.

I've read enough horror stories about how you can't get it back if deleted from "Manage Your Kindle", so I won't do that.

Ideally, Amazon needs to fix things on their side so that this dictionary (or any items that are be iPhone only) doesn't show up in the Kindle's Archived Items. Why show it if I can't download it?

-HM

[sorin]

You can delete books from Archive Items from Manage your kindle page - section Your Orders -> Delete this title

[phil75070]

If a person has only one device/app owned I can't remember if a brand new device with no books downloaded yet would show the "Archive" or not, or if one would have to "remove" a book from the device before an archive is created. On the otehr hand, tes, downloading the iPhone app would create an archive on all other devices/apps because anything downloaded to one device or app becomes "available" to other registered devices/apps through the archive.

As others have stated, to remove books from the archive you have to log into you Amazon account, got to the Manage Your Kindle page and delete from there. However, again as others have warned, the book is then gone for good and you would have to repurchase the book to read it or refer to it again. Since I have never done it I assume it then removes it from all devices/apps? Also, I don;t think there is any way to get the "Archive" itself, empty or not, off of a device/app.