Raon Digital Everun UMPC is a great e-book reader - Page 2

wallcraft · 07-03-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chippy

This e-reader aspect has got me interested. i might try and use it in ernest to read a book and see how it goes. i tried mobipocket, does anyone else have any suggestions for good software? It annoys me that mobipocket puts a couple of page turn columns onto the screen. They're obviously not needed on this device.

If you have a DRM-free MobiPocket e-book (or practically any DRM-free reflowable e-book) try FBReader. A good source of DRM-free books is Baen free-library, I have used ring-of-fire as a representative example.

orcinus · 07-03-2007, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Marquard

I do not see that it is really more powerful than a current PDA. 400 MHz is now standard and i am rather sure that an ARM core is faster than a Geode.

I wouldn't be so sure about that...
Pepperpad fans had similar doubts. Here's an interesting reading:
http://www.pepper.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196

HarryT · 07-04-2007, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chippy

This e-reader aspect has got me interested. i might try and use it in ernest to read a book and see how it goes. i tried mobipocket, does anyone else have any suggestions for good software? It annoys me that mobipocket puts a couple of page turn columns onto the screen. They're obviously not needed on this device.

S.

My favourite is uBook (http://www.gowerpoint.com). It supports Mobipocket as well as all the usual "open" stuff - text, RTF, HTML, etc.

Azayzel · 07-04-2007, 10:33 AM

Thanks for the clarification. While I did see the keys in the photo, I didn't see a dedicated hardware keyboard; hence the question. FYI the Samsung isn't really a hardware keyboard since it's a software overlay on the touch-screen, that would make it a software keyboard.

I almost picked up one of the Q1's recently, but lost it when the bidding went way over retail (I guess that's why eBay is so profitable when people don't research their product before buying it). I also almost got scammed by another, but caught it just after I sent the cash; fortunately I know how the eBay/PayPal system works, so it was a fairly easy process to get my money back.

wallcraft · 07-04-2007, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Azayzel

FYI the Samsung isn't really a hardware keyboard since it's a software overlay on the touch-screen, that would make it a software keyboard.

The original Q1 had a software keyboard, but the new Q1 Ultra has a hardware keypad.

wallcraft · 07-08-2007, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chippy

It annoys me that mobipocket puts a couple of page turn columns onto the screen. They're obviously not needed on this device.

I finally found the menu to turn these off. In the standard view, left click on the square "screen" icon, between the A icon and the search, and unselect show next/previous arrows. I have no idea why this is the only place to get at the option, but at least it exists. I generally use FBReader which allows very fine control over how the text is displayed and which keys can be used for navigation, but MobiPocket Reader is certainly "good enough". Adobe Digital Editions is a new entry, and it seems less customizable but is also interesting because of its potential portability (being Flash based) to any UMPC-like device.

Robert Marquard · 07-08-2007, 10:45 AM

DE is Flash based? It is like almost all ebook readers a browser, that is a program rendering HTML.

wallcraft · 07-08-2007, 11:54 AM

From the DE FAQ:

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Digital Editions is a specific RIA built on the current version of the Adobe Engagement Platform, including Adobe Flash® Player 9 and Flex™ 2 software.

"RIA" is Rich Internet Application. In addition to XHTML, it also displays PDF - in fact currently most DE compatible e-books are probably PDFs. Note that Acrobat Reader 8 "no longer directly supports the Adobe Content Server (ACS) eBook digital rights management (DRM) solution". In other words, if you want to read an Adobe e-book, you must use DE.

dura · 07-11-2007, 07:56 AM

I prefer UMPCs without a hardware keyboard. IMO its better to add a BT or USB keyboard. You can pick one with the action and size you desire, and it's easy to replace. Besides a keyboardless device can smaller in theory.

Chippy · 07-13-2007, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by wallcraft

I finally found the menu to turn these off. In the standard view, left click on the square "screen" icon, between the A icon and the search, and unselect show next/previous arrows.

Thanks!

Regarding umpcs without keyboards' theres one called Uren that could be good for eboks. Details here
http://www.umpcportal.com/products/product.php?id=41

Regards.
Steve

Ed_Ca22 · 08-14-2007, 12:49 PM

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All mainstream software packages run under Windows and even the OpenSource candiates often require x86 (FireFox, Thunderbird, OpenOffice).

Um, actually all of these OpenSource programs run on a multitude of platforms, including ARM (the ARM version of OpenOffice is only available from Debian though).

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Originally Posted by Robert Marquard View Post
I do not see that it is really more powerful than a current PDA. 400 MHz is now standard and i am rather sure that an ARM core is faster than a Geode.
I wouldn't be so sure about that...

Pepperpad fans had similar doubts. Here's an interesting reading:
http://www.pepper.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196

As the link you posted rightly points out, the main reason for ARM processors being slow is that they have no floating point unit and a small cache, and generally no graphics acceleration. But ARM processors are very varied, and comparing a device like the XScale PXA270 to something like the OMAP ARM processors from Texas Instruments (e.g. OMAP 3430 http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtb...er+OT+omap3430) that have built in 2D/3D accelerators, the latest (and much much faster) ARM core and more built in peripherals than you can shake a very big sick at (built in USB 2 host, every type of video out, every kind of memory interface you can imagine...) is really pointless.

What I'm saying is that geode vs XScale is not the same as Geode vs ARM or x86 vs ARM. I guarantee you that there are (or will be very soon - cant actually say I've done performance tests) ARM processors that out perform the Geode, require less external components, provide more functionality and are cheaper and less battery hungry.

To me it seems that the main argument for Geodes is that you can run windows, albeit very slowly. But Ive never wanted to do that anyway!

Not wanting to flame anyone here, I'm just quite opinionated about this topic!

Bob Russell · 08-15-2007, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed_Ca22

Not wanting to flame anyone here, I'm just quite opinionated about this topic!

Thanks for the great input. Not taken as a flame at all, and I personally enjoy getting this kind of information, because it seems rather hard for me to read from technical sources as the context is never clear to me.

wallcraft · 08-15-2007, 11:39 AM

You don't even have to choose just one cpu type any more. The HTC Shift, has both an Intel x86 processor running Vista and a Qualcomm processor running Windows Mobile. The latter being much less power hungry. I'm not sure which mode I would use for e-book reading (assuming I would shell out $1,500 for one), since the WM screen is 640x480, vs Vista's 800x480. Probably the longer battery life would win out.

loralyn · 10-29-2007, 04:51 AM

I have purchased 3 handheld devices to use as ebook readers: The Nokia 770, ebookwise 1150, and the Cowon A2 PMP. Much to my dismay, I am unable to download any of the Adobe pdf or Mobipocket ebooks from my local library on to any of them. Library ebooks are encrypted which does not prevent me from reading them on my WinXP PC or my Mac, but I can’t take them out of the office. Does anyone have any suggestions (other than to just give it up)? Is there a handheld device that will work with encrypted Adobe PDF or Mobipocket ebooks? Or, is there a software program which will make them readable on a handheld?

wallcraft · 10-29-2007, 01:08 PM

Any UMPC that is running Windows (XP or Tablet) or Vista should be able to display Adobe or MobiPocket e-books (using the standard "desktop" version of Adobe's and MobiPocket's software). This includes the Everun. There may be issues of readability and perhaps getting menus to work on the small screen, but the basic software will run. MobiPocket Reader software is available for many PDA's and cell phones too, but not for most Linux-based devices such as the Nokia 770.

10-29-2007, 04:51 AM	#29
loralyn Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2007 Device: ebookwise 1150	Library books and handhelds I have purchased 3 handheld devices to use as ebook readers: The Nokia 770, ebookwise 1150, and the Cowon A2 PMP. Much to my dismay, I am unable to download any of the Adobe pdf or Mobipocket ebooks from my local library on to any of them. Library ebooks are encrypted which does not prevent me from reading them on my WinXP PC or my Mac, but I can’t take them out of the office. Does anyone have any suggestions (other than to just give it up)? Is there a handheld device that will work with encrypted Adobe PDF or Mobipocket ebooks? Or, is there a software program which will make them readable on a handheld?

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Azayzel Cache Ninja! Posts: 643 Karma: 1002300 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tokyo, Japan Device: PRS-500, HTC Shift, iPod Touch, iPaq 4150, TC1100, Panasonic WordsGear	Thanks for the clarification. While I did see the keys in the photo, I didn't see a dedicated hardware keyboard; hence the question. FYI the Samsung isn't really a hardware keyboard since it's a software overlay on the touch-screen, that would make it a software keyboard. I almost picked up one of the Q1's recently, but lost it when the bidding went way over retail (I guess that's why eBay is so profitable when people don't research their product before buying it). I also almost got scammed by another, but caught it just after I sent the cash; fortunately I know how the eBay/PayPal system works, so it was a fairly easy process to get my money back.

07-08-2007, 10:45 AM	#22
Robert Marquard Delphi-Guy Posts: 285 Karma: 1151 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany Device: iLiad, Palm T3	DE is Flash based? It is like almost all ebook readers a browser, that is a program rendering HTML.

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dura Groupie Posts: 174 Karma: 1062434 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Netherlands Device: Kobo H2O (2th edition), Kindle PW11	I prefer UMPCs without a hardware keyboard. IMO its better to add a BT or USB keyboard. You can pick one with the action and size you desire, and it's easy to replace. Besides a keyboardless device can smaller in theory.

08-15-2007, 11:39 AM	#28
wallcraft reader Posts: 6,977 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD	You don't even have to choose just one cpu type any more. The HTC Shift, has both an Intel x86 processor running Vista and a Qualcomm processor running Windows Mobile. The latter being much less power hungry. I'm not sure which mode I would use for e-book reading (assuming I would shell out $1,500 for one), since the WM screen is 640x480, vs Vista's 800x480. Probably the longer battery life would win out.

10-29-2007, 01:08 PM	#30
wallcraft reader Posts: 6,977 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD	Any UMPC that is running Windows (XP or Tablet) or Vista should be able to display Adobe or MobiPocket e-books (using the standard "desktop" version of Adobe's and MobiPocket's software). This includes the Everun. There may be issues of readability and perhaps getting menus to work on the small screen, but the basic software will run. MobiPocket Reader software is available for many PDA's and cell phones too, but not for most Linux-based devices such as the Nokia 770.

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