Sending metadata to iTunes - Page 2

GRiker · 12-16-2010, 09:56 AM

How would you like to see it formatted so that multiple-digit series numbers sort correctly? And what if the series number has a decimal place?

That's why the other field has the leading zeros and a decimal place.

paulfiera · 12-16-2010, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GRiker

How would you like to see it formatted so that multiple-digit series numbers sort correctly? And what if the series number has a decimal place?

That's why the other field has the leading zeros and a decimal place.

I can see that.

The best would be if you could choose the formatting via some options - I don't know if that could be in the plugin interface or in the Metadata Plugboard.

So, if I know a certain series consists of less than 99 books, I would choose: 00. If it has decimals, 00.00. Less than thousand, 000 and so on. The series index sorting in iTunes is only useful within the same series, so no problem if one serie consists of 5 books and another series of, say 100.

But otherwise, your first approach: "The Culture: 6" looks like a perfect solution.

GRiker · 12-16-2010, 10:16 AM

I'm confused as to why you need this at all.

If I look at a series in iTunes, sorted by name (using the plugboard template I provided), the series sorts correctly (due to the existing sort field).

If your objective is to see the books sorted by series order, you can do that simply sorting by name.

What am I missing?

paulfiera · 12-16-2010, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GRiker

I'm confused as to why you need this at all.

If I look at a series in iTunes, sorted by name (using the plugboard template I provided), the series sorts correctly (due to the existing sort field).

If your objective is to see the books sorted by series order, you can do that simply sorting by name.

What am I missing?

I think, the template alters the books names, so instead of:

Title: 'Inversions'
Series: 'The Culture'
Index: '6'

it would become

Title: 'The Culture 6: Inversions'

But maybe I'm wrong.

paulfiera · 12-16-2010, 10:33 AM

Look at the attachment.

I can see the indexes of the series of 'The Culture' adding the Sort Name column - and you get the index right, but in case the book is not part of a series it's the book title that gets written to the Sort Number field.

In case the book belongs to a serie, part of the series name gets written to Sort Number: 'Culture', from 'The Culture' + the index.

Coleccionista · 12-16-2010, 10:33 AM

FWIW I use the trackNumber field in iTunes for series index (Get Info -->Information) since the Information tab is the one iTunes populates automatically when you add a new book.
I believe it does not admit decimals though but it has not been a problem for me.

paulfiera · 12-16-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Coleccionista

FWIW I use the trackNumber field in iTunes for series index (Get Info -->Information) since the Information tab is the one iTunes populates automatically when you add a new book.
I believe it does not admit decimals though but it has not been a problem for me.

You are correct. I've tried that too and it works, but you have to enter that info manually.

GRyker, can you write to the Track Number field in iTunes?

Coleccionista · 12-16-2010, 10:50 AM

It's a point of view, I imagine you entered the series index in calibre and you are trying to port them to iTunes.
I entered the numbers in iTunes and a few months ago developed some hodgepodge of win scripts to transport iTunes metadata to calibre and back (since I am not using the "conect to iTunes" feature of calibre)

paulfiera · 12-16-2010, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Coleccionista

I imagine you entered the series index in calibre and you are trying to port them to iTunes.

Correct.

Glad you got it working.

GRiker · 12-16-2010, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by paulfiera

GRyker, can you write to the Track Number field in iTunes?

Patch submitted to Kovid, should be in next release.

G

paulfiera · 12-17-2010, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GRiker

Patch submitted to Kovid, should be in next release.

G

Many thanks GRiker !!!

paulfiera · 12-18-2010, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GRiker

Patch submitted to Kovid, should be in next release.

G

Just updated to 0.7.34 and the Apple driver is working perfect.

Great to be able to see the series index in the iTunes UI.

Many thanks, GRiker !!!

12-16-2010, 10:33 AM	#20
paulfiera Addict Posts: 387 Karma: 3102 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: EU Device: Kobo Aura ONE, Kobo Libra H20	Look at the attachment. I can see the indexes of the series of 'The Culture' adding the Sort Name column - and you get the index right, but in case the book is not part of a series it's the book title that gets written to the Sort Number field. In case the book belongs to a serie, part of the series name gets written to Sort Number: 'Culture', from 'The Culture' + the index. Attached Thumbnails

12-16-2010, 10:33 AM	#21
Coleccionista Connoisseur Posts: 73 Karma: 11638 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Spain Device: iPad, Kindle Paperwhite, Kobo Libra 2	FWIW I use the trackNumber field in iTunes for series index (Get Info -->Information) since the Information tab is the one iTunes populates automatically when you add a new book. I believe it does not admit decimals though but it has not been a problem for me. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Coleccionista; 12-16-2010 at 10:37 AM.

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12-16-2010, 09:56 AM	#16
GRiker Comparer of the Ephemeris Posts: 1,496 Karma: 424697 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: iPad	How would you like to see it formatted so that multiple-digit series numbers sort correctly? And what if the series number has a decimal place? That's why the other field has the leading zeros and a decimal place.

12-16-2010, 10:16 AM	#18
GRiker Comparer of the Ephemeris Posts: 1,496 Karma: 424697 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: iPad	I'm confused as to why you need this at all. If I look at a series in iTunes, sorted by name (using the plugboard template I provided), the series sorts correctly (due to the existing sort field). If your objective is to see the books sorted by series order, you can do that simply sorting by name. What am I missing?

12-16-2010, 10:50 AM	#23
Coleccionista Connoisseur Posts: 73 Karma: 11638 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Spain Device: iPad, Kindle Paperwhite, Kobo Libra 2	It's a point of view, I imagine you entered the series index in calibre and you are trying to port them to iTunes. I entered the numbers in iTunes and a few months ago developed some hodgepodge of win scripts to transport iTunes metadata to calibre and back (since I am not using the "conect to iTunes" feature of calibre)

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