sony 650 - please help - Page 2

elcreative · 11-27-2010, 08:45 PM

There have been reports of problems with x64 setups but I can't help with details as not a system I run... someone else should be able to assist as there are x64 users on here and you may find something useful in the Calibre sub-forum as well... good luck.

cmdahler · 11-27-2010, 08:52 PM

Your problem has nothing to do with authorizations or file formats. You can transfer any number of unauthorized books onto an unauthorized reader just by dragging and dropping; the reader will complain about not being able to read the file when you try to open it, but it will happily accept its transfer. It's like downloading an encrypted book onto your computer from the internet. You won't be able to read the book once you download it, but that doesn't stop you from downloading the file, nor does it affect the speed of the download. It's just 1s and 0s coming down a wire and being recorded on your hard drive; it's when you go to try to interpret those 1s and 0s later on that you may run into trouble.

Your reader is no different. In fact, your computer actually sees your reader as a portable hard drive. When you plug your reader into your computer, look in My Computer on your desktop, and you'll see the reader there as a removable drive. Transfers to and from the reader should be happening at a normal transfer rate regardless of what kind of file you're transferring. The reader and your computer should be hooked up together over a USB2 connection, so a 4 MB file should whip into your reader in about 10 to 20 seconds or so. A 135 MB file might take a few minutes at the most. If you're getting speeds like you describe, something is seriously wrong.

Since you said you have a friend who has a reader as well, the first thing I would try would be to just plug your reader into his computer and see if he can drag-and-drop a couple of files onto your reader. If the transfer rate is normal, then the problem is with your computer. If not, the problem is with your reader. If you can't use anyone else's computer for this test, then I would simply suggest returning the reader and getting a replacement to see if that solves the problem. Do you have an external hard drive that connects to your computer with a USB cable? Do transfers to and from that hard drive appear to go at normal speed? Do you hook up a camera to your computer and download photos from it? Do those transfers appear to be of a normal speed? If any of this is true, then your reader is probably defective.

JSWolf · 11-27-2010, 09:10 PM

I suggest trying a different USB port on the computer and also trying a different computer.

chicoelnino · 11-27-2010, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doreenjoy

I can offer up a little bit in the way of answering your questions...

* Yes, LRF files are very very large compared to other file types. I recommend EPUB

* Some PDF files won't convert well. It depends on how the PDF was made.

* The conversion process can take quite a bit of time.

* I suspect something is unusual with your PDF files that makes them difficult to transfer. Are they copyrighted material, or can you attach one of them so we can take a look and see if we have the same issue transferring it to our readers?

* If you've authorized your reader using the Sony Library, you do NOT have to also authorize it using ADE.

think you may be correct in saying there might be a problem with the pdf files I'm trying to use, as I got a cd off a friend with 30+ poker books in pdf format and it was mainly those in which I've been trying to transfer.

I have now transfered a few other pdf books which I've just downloaded from a few other sites and they have both converted to Epub and transfered perfectly and very quickly. So maybe it was those files on the cd I got that don't convert/transfer to well?

JSWolf · 11-27-2010, 10:10 PM

Maybe those PDF are all scanned images for the pages. That could be the problem maybe.

chicoelnino · 11-27-2010, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Maybe those PDF are all scanned images for the pages. That could be the problem maybe.

Thats exactly what they are yeah!

cmdahler · 11-27-2010, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicoelnino

Thats exactly what they are yeah!

That would definitely affect the speed at which the reader views the documents; that would have nothing whatsoever to do with the speed at which the file is physically transferred to the reader. A 40MB file should transfer to your reader in a matter of a minute or two at the absolute most. If you are really getting times like 30+ minutes to transfer a 135MB file, there is a problem, and the problem has nothing at all to do with the kind of file or whether the PDF is composed of images or not. A file is just a bunch of 1s and 0s. It does not matter what those 1s and 0s are supposed to represent; transferring the file from one place to another is simply a matter of moving those 1s and 0s, and the transfer process has nothing at all to do with what kind of file you're moving.

elcreative · 11-28-2010, 07:35 AM

Are you trying to transfer directly from the CD?

chicoelnino · 11-28-2010, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elcreative

Are you trying to transfer directly from the CD?

no from the hard drive.

could someone post up here a simple book so that I could download and try and transfere over? just to see if its 100% the files I was on about that was causing the problem.

Kiwimick · 11-28-2010, 01:42 PM

just download a book from the site here. See under Ebooks at the top of the forum page. Then choose the format you want

jswinden · 11-28-2010, 03:34 PM

Sometimes a file transferred to a CD gets corrupted. You might just have a bad CD which caused file corruption. When you transfer them to your computer they will still be corrupted and could cause problems when transferring to the reader.

BTW, the reader will probably crash trying to open a huge 135mb PDF.

elcreative · 11-28-2010, 09:58 PM

Referring to an earlier point about a 135MB file, there is a specific point in the user manual saying files greater than 123MB may have problems... I know we never read manuals but as it's on the reader, it's worth a look especially when having problems. I am just as guilty about not reading User Manuals but just came across this point and a few others...

John F · 11-29-2010, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doreenjoy

...

* Yes, LRF files are very very large compared to other file types. I recommend EPUB

...

In general, I find LRF files to be somewhat larger then EPub (maybe 20%).

YMMV.

doreenjoy · 11-29-2010, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John F

In general, I find LRF files to be somewhat larger then EPub (maybe 20%).

YMMV.

Mine on average seem to be 50% larger, so definitely YMMV.

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11-27-2010, 08:45 PM	#16
elcreative Wizard Posts: 2,888 Karma: 5875940 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: PRS505, 600, 350, 650, Nexus 7, Note III, iPad 4 etc	There have been reports of problems with x64 setups but I can't help with details as not a system I run... someone else should be able to assist as there are x64 users on here and you may find something useful in the Calibre sub-forum as well... good luck.

11-27-2010, 08:52 PM	#17
cmdahler Addict Posts: 292 Karma: 24688 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: Sony PRS-505, iPad	Your problem has nothing to do with authorizations or file formats. You can transfer any number of unauthorized books onto an unauthorized reader just by dragging and dropping; the reader will complain about not being able to read the file when you try to open it, but it will happily accept its transfer. It's like downloading an encrypted book onto your computer from the internet. You won't be able to read the book once you download it, but that doesn't stop you from downloading the file, nor does it affect the speed of the download. It's just 1s and 0s coming down a wire and being recorded on your hard drive; it's when you go to try to interpret those 1s and 0s later on that you may run into trouble. Your reader is no different. In fact, your computer actually sees your reader as a portable hard drive. When you plug your reader into your computer, look in My Computer on your desktop, and you'll see the reader there as a removable drive. Transfers to and from the reader should be happening at a normal transfer rate regardless of what kind of file you're transferring. The reader and your computer should be hooked up together over a USB2 connection, so a 4 MB file should whip into your reader in about 10 to 20 seconds or so. A 135 MB file might take a few minutes at the most. If you're getting speeds like you describe, something is seriously wrong. Since you said you have a friend who has a reader as well, the first thing I would try would be to just plug your reader into his computer and see if he can drag-and-drop a couple of files onto your reader. If the transfer rate is normal, then the problem is with your computer. If not, the problem is with your reader. If you can't use anyone else's computer for this test, then I would simply suggest returning the reader and getting a replacement to see if that solves the problem. Do you have an external hard drive that connects to your computer with a USB cable? Do transfers to and from that hard drive appear to go at normal speed? Do you hook up a camera to your computer and download photos from it? Do those transfers appear to be of a normal speed? If any of this is true, then your reader is probably defective.

11-27-2010, 09:10 PM	#18
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,796 Karma: 146391129 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I suggest trying a different USB port on the computer and also trying a different computer.

11-27-2010, 10:10 PM	#20
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,796 Karma: 146391129 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Maybe those PDF are all scanned images for the pages. That could be the problem maybe.

11-28-2010, 07:35 AM	#23
elcreative Wizard Posts: 2,888 Karma: 5875940 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: PRS505, 600, 350, 650, Nexus 7, Note III, iPad 4 etc	Are you trying to transfer directly from the CD?

11-28-2010, 01:42 PM	#25
Kiwimick Addict Posts: 211 Karma: 37308 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: London UK Device: Sony PRS650	just download a book from the site here. See under Ebooks at the top of the forum page. Then choose the format you want

11-28-2010, 03:34 PM	#26
jswinden Nameless Being	Sometimes a file transferred to a CD gets corrupted. You might just have a bad CD which caused file corruption. When you transfer them to your computer they will still be corrupted and could cause problems when transferring to the reader. BTW, the reader will probably crash trying to open a huge 135mb PDF.

11-28-2010, 09:58 PM	#27
elcreative Wizard Posts: 2,888 Karma: 5875940 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: PRS505, 600, 350, 650, Nexus 7, Note III, iPad 4 etc	Referring to an earlier point about a 135MB file, there is a specific point in the user manual saying files greater than 123MB may have problems... I know we never read manuals but as it's on the reader, it's worth a look especially when having problems. I am just as guilty about not reading User Manuals but just came across this point and a few others...

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