Why eReaders totally suck!

[GeoffC]

Oi !

Who's you calling a stray ;Snicker:

[Nexutix]

Originally Posted by Seanette

Exactly. Trolls are like stray cats: you feed them, they never leave.

Expect politeness. But, at least don't humiliate.
We need to be Human! Humanity went ot eat the grass... Thread creator is still a

[Pablo]

Two years ago, when I first heard of this electronic publishing conspiracy aimed at destroying culture and civilization, I made secret arrangements for one of this evil devices to be sent to me, so that, when the ebook wave of destruction reaches my country I am prepared.
This so-called ebook reader (or should I say weapon?), a Sony PRS-505, looked harmless at first. But when I discovered that full justification in ePub books was not supported and, when sometime later Sony dropped support for the LRF format, my worst fears were confirmed.
Readers of the World, unite!

Now seriously: relax, stop worrying and love ebook readers.

[SkyDream]

Originally Posted by Bobstad

Too bad SkyDream hasn't the available intelligence to try to elaborate on such a narrow opinion as was expressed?

Same to you

You are not worth a discussion....Bye

[desertgrandma]

Originally Posted by ImogenRose

and welcome to MR!

Imogen

Are you kidding me???

[Bobstad]

Originally Posted by desertgrandma

Karl Marx, Socialism, the eradication of capitalism.....you must be very happy with our current presidential office holder.

That comment is a telling one. The leader of the other party of capitalism; who in many instances has deepened the worsening effects of his predecessor.

I think nearing sixty I'm starting to feel overwhelmed by the degradation of the quality of life; by the consumer culture in the heartland of that. Where the richest most powerful nation in the world contributes little to even the production of what gets most often used here.

Obviously I guess, this forum is peripheral to a discussion of values; but, where relatively cutting edge consumer technology aimed at mass consumption is discussed.

Another gadget a person has to have; where in some sense my feelings are that this is also another step removed from a focused culture and society working to deal with some very monstrous and long-standing problems.

But, I'm the sort to go on at length about the evil of paternalistic patriarchy for instance; which perhaps is an un-familiar subject here? I'll probably end up with one of these eReader devices, and as unhappy having one as for instance a television where none of the stations either rabbit ears or cable, have anything of real interest while also heavily laden with inane, frequent commercials.

Where in my life, the roles of actual live people is so frustratingly limited by the prevailing conventions of this consumer society rather than any natural inclination; that these eReaders seem only another great extension of. At least getting paper books I'm out and about doing that. Though then once home again, sharing consciousness with only the sometimes long dead and definitely remote from me authors, and my four walls.

I think that the segments of society most enthused with technological advances and integration of same into their own lives; are probably where there is the most benefit derived from a technological consumer society. Which seems a narrow, numerically small portion of the total population.

Again, probably too narrow a forum of interest to attract others like-minded to myself; but, my ideas are ones shared by others where often the opinions are responsible ones, from considerable thought, study and experiences.

Michael Parenti, the author I'd first mentioned; happens to be particularly useful as a progressive, leftist, radical also quite intelligent. Whose books are often concerned with the media industry and how that gets manipulated and used by a small, very wealthy minority.

Anyway, just the limited means of sharing an electronic source once in my hands, seems discouraging and totally arbitrary; out of the motivations of capitalism. Where a person would feel more natural the ability to instantly share such a thing without further cost, rather than continually enriching people already far too advantaged compared to their worth, every time I want someone else to read what I have.

The time I'm investing in my reading seems so desultorily valued, when in the past even literacy itself had once been so rare that a person who could read was assured some reasonable employment even.

Now material security seems to depend upon granting too large a commitment to making of oneself an adjunct to corporate function; a cog in their wheels and machinery. Even just pushing a broom as I used to do when able to; they'd want you act as if you'd be around the rest of your damned life.

With a paper book I can pass that on, or loan and retrieve when another is finished, to pass on again to someone else for awhile. I think that within the technology as that is evolving for all electronica, is such a vast devotion to a specifically capitalist orientation; which otherwise would yield a much different modality in many things.

Or can anyone explain the fundamental virtue of a television commercial; repeated so frequently they become as if a mantra. Where of nominal if any interest, and usually so insulting to the intelligence they are painful. Yet now many generations have had to endure that of the media, obviously corrosive and particularly so if they actually sell their products, which one guesses they must since so much programming time gets devoted to their use.

Here is an interesting website; concerned with the environment I had to leave almost three years ago, and what happens there to people without adequate means. <http://peopleproject.wordpress.com/> Or another, excellent about more diverse social problems. <http://www.peoplesworld.org/> I used to distribute the paper edition of PEOPLES WORLD, when the PEOPLES WEEKLY WORLD, that as the DAILY WORKER Woody Guthrie wrote his eloquent column for in the nineteen thirties. I'm sure those publishing PEOPLES WORLD are deeply involved with the evolving technology; and also with the general consciousness on the planet.

[desertgrandma]

You sound like a very, embittered person, who is using his unfortunate circumstance to strike out at what he perceives as an unfair world because he can't have the toys other have.

Either that or you're one of the over aged hippies I remember from my youth.........that never grew up.

If you hate TV that much......leave it off. Its that simple.

Read some of those paper books you are so fond of.

Cultivate a hobby that pleases you. It doesn't have to cost a lot of money.

You might also, for pete's sakes, stop trying to impress people by your verbose ramblings that make very little sense.

Your writing takes up much space, but says nothing.

[Iridal]

Well Bobstad ...

I respect your opinions, although I don't particularly support them. But if you don't like e-readers or the people who buy them, you really should join some other forum. Hopefully you'll find 'like-minded people' there.

Just one more thought: this is an international forum, not everyone is a native English speaker. You might want to take that into consideration when you're posting. I gave up on your last post, because I couldn't for the life of me understand anything you wrote (which has absolutely nothing to do with my lack of intelligence). In my opinion it's just a lot of bullsh*t in a pretty package.

Originally Posted by SkyDream

Same to you

You are not worth a discussion....Bye

Seconded

[Bobstad]

Originally Posted by desertgrandma

You might also, for pete's sakes, stop trying to impress people by your verbose ramblings that make very little sense.

Your writing takes up much space, but says nothing.

Obviously where encountering a non-reflective medium; there is no illumination.

I'm a little surprised that in a forum of readers, so many are given to sound byte type comments.

[desertgrandma]

Originally Posted by Bobstad

Obviously where encountering a non-reflective medium; there is no illumination.

I'm a little surprised that in a forum of readers, so many are given to sound byte type comments.

No......you are disappointed that your pathetic attempt to impress is so easily seen through.

Attacking the intelligence of those who disagree with you is the hallmark of someone one has nothing concrete to say.

[neilmarr]

For two years, I've always thanked newcomers here for their new company. In your case, Bobstad, I think I'll make an exception and put the welcome on hold for a while. Neil

[Bobstad]

I don't know if available in an eText; but, my favorite novel is Malcolm Lowry's OCTOBER FERRY TO GABRIOLA.

Published posthumously that was completed without revision from his notes, by his writing partner wife and one of their writer friends. The only book I've ever read and found so interesting, that twice now I've reread the whole book over again after the first read through.

What always amazes me about this book is that even though requiring an unabridged dictionary six times in several pages, and one chapter of many pages a single sentence; none of this is superfluous or without meaning and unnecessary. A writer who is often praised for his brilliant use of language; and whose masterpiece UNDER THE VOLCANO is said to be one of the greatest novels of the twentieth century.

I think one reason OCTOBER FERRY TO GABRIOLA has such an appeal to me, is since taking place near where I live now, on Vancouver Island in British Columbia; very close to where I'd lived in my youth also.

Lowry died in nineteen fifty-seven at the age of forty-seven; who'd been an extremely heavy drinker most of his life, that seems to afflict many great writers. Someone himself an acquaintance of writer Dylan Thomas who also died at forty-seven, also a heavy drinker. I drink to some extent; but, since more sedentary than either of those two not nearly so much.

And also a habit I'm convinced survives by default when there are other much more satisfying alternatives, though ones also universally suppressed in contemporary as well as historical culture. Being "driven to drink" a pretty common malady; where one tries to make the best of that, Lowry was a great professional at.

He is also said to be one of the most "cinematic" of writers. UNDER THE VOLCANO is simply the last day in the life of a heavy drinker who is murdered at the end of the book. Lowry's writing is also highly autobiographical; and two excellent long biographies exist about him, one written by a writer friend of his not long after his death; then another by an academic about ten years ago. Each in the six to eight hundred pages length.

Just to try to work a little further at my introduction here, without being drawn into too much bickering? The life altering advice given by people who know so little of me got off the deep end rather quickly. Whether or not comfortably so, I am pretty set in my ways.

[desertgrandma]

Originally Posted by Bobstad

Just to try to work a little further at my introduction here, without being drawn into too much bickering? The life altering advice given by people who know so little of me got off the deep end rather quickly. Whether or not comfortably so, I am pretty set in my ways.

Would you care to re-read your opening post?

You attack everything from e-book readers to capitalism, and expect a warm welcome?

From a site that is dedicated to the use and informative postings of all things e-book related?

You certainly have a right to remain set in your ways.

However, you might want to find an alternate forum to post in.

One with views more sympathetic to yours.

[Bobstad]

Originally Posted by neilmarr

For two years, I've always thanked newcomers here for their new company. In your case, Bobstad, I think I'll make an exception and put the welcome on hold for a while. Neil

Well Neil, at least there may be some margin for acceptance in the future. I'm still wondering if anyone is going to see into my rationale; from their holding of similar intelligence and experience to me? Certainly much of that of my own is drawn from reading, so that one reasons there might be people involved in these new devices, well given to understanding me.

Again, I strongly recommend Michael Parenti, who I've met now a few times; as a really thorough, articulate and recognized source whose ideas likely are ones I've drawn from and/or congruent to the way I tend to think. Whose abilities though, are considerably more evolved and able. <http://www.michaelparenti.org/index.html>.

[Bobstad]

"desertgrandma" seems the type devoted to creating the hell they want me to end up roasting in?

Instead of doing anything meaningful with my life, I've ended up for the most part having to figure out and then resist the encroachment of those all too happy to be targeting others, for their abuse.

Anyone else familiar with Malcolm Lowry? To try to direct the discussion somewhere feasibly constructive.