Kindle owners - So what do you think abot Nook Color? - Page 2

karthwyne · 10-27-2010, 11:26 AM

LCD for reading? Not for me. I also do not understand why they would give this the Nook name - it's just a (restricted) tablet as others have stated.

mldavis2 · 10-27-2010, 11:46 AM

The point made by @Barty is well taken. While I have no intent to use my K3 for anything but text, I suppose there are those who try to make their readers fit magazines and other color materials. (If you have a lawnmower, everything looks like grass.) Since magazine format is not conducive for cramming into a 5" wide display, I would expect that, even given retention of the colors, the photos would lose much of their impact in an artificially reduced size display. I'll continue to use my big 24" computer monitor or hold the pMag in my hands.

jswinden · 10-27-2010, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcuadro

I agree with HarryT... just an android tablet that has been crippled... someone will root it and then it will be a slow, crippled, android tablet

I agree too with one addition--I think all the Android tablets are slow, crippled, and have a horrible OS on them. I played with several and they all blew chunks. Unless someone is a hacker, and I doubt that is B&N's target market, the NookColor will be a disappointment.

I'll also add that I think the Nook eInk is a stupid design as well. I played with one and it was slow to respond and the LCD--eInk coordination was pathetic.

OakIris · 10-27-2010, 12:05 PM

When I bought my Kindle, I wanted an eReader, not a laptop substitute. I like my Kindle for reading and my Mac laptop or PC desktop for surfing the Web, using office apps, playing games. At some point, once perfected and made cheap enough so that even I can buy such a device, an eInk colour display might be very nice, but an eReader with an LCD screen doesn't appeal to me.

As for children, I think I would still introduce them to "real" children's books first - but that's probably just my prejudice in that I think the tactile experience adds to the pleasure when one is just learning to enjoy books.

Once you are addicted to reading, like I am, it no longer matters, its the immersive experience of reading that counts.

Holly

bill_mchale · 10-27-2010, 12:23 PM

I think the Nook Color could be an interesting, addition to the world of Android Tablets that are intended for book reading. It appears to have got the touch screen right (i.e., not resistive), and the price is decent. If the software works well, and if there is at least some way of expanding it somewhat to play games and the like, then it might be successful. Time will tell (Perhaps the forth coming Velocity Micro Tablet (not the eReader) might be a better choice though...

--
Bill

notatoad · 10-27-2010, 12:31 PM

it seems like e-reader is becoming a synonym for a tablet with a weak processor and limited ram, with the literati and others coming out of asia. it makes me sad that B&N is continuing this trend, i feel it will hurt the market for proper e-readers. the general public already has a hard enough time understanding the benefit of e-ink, this will just further the misconception that e-readers are basically an ipad that isn't as good.

volwrath · 10-27-2010, 01:14 PM

I may buy one and slap the Android Kindle App on there

cjottawa · 10-27-2010, 01:18 PM

@notatoad

I get that "vibe" from the market too. People don't understand what sets e-ink and tablets apart.

While the new Kindle screen is very nice, it still isn't "paper-white."

I suspect, if and when an e-ink display can be made that is truly, blindingly bright white, it will affect the market's perception.

In parallel, if a good looking colour e-ink display can be built, it might be the thing that sways some of the market away from tablets to e-readers.

The choice would then become one of "month long battery, VERY easy on the eyes, no moving images" versus "short battery life, video but kind of tiring on the eyes."

I don't think most people appreciate e-ink as much as we "the converted" do.

*** *** ***

Regarding the NOOKcolor: it IS a tablet, not an e-reader.

Perhaps B&N bet on the right horse though and market ignorance will gut e-ink device sales.

JLeighs · 10-27-2010, 01:22 PM

I think it's a nice gadget, but it's not what I'm looking for in an e-reader. An e-reader with an LCD screen is a turn-off, which is why I went with the Kindle 3. I also don't need or want color or a touchscreen in an e-reader which is another reason I went with the Kindle. I do hope this isn't the future of e-readers because if so, I'll be hanging on to my current Kindle until it disintegrates.

ProfCrash · 10-27-2010, 01:22 PM

I don't need a glorified tablet. I need an e-reader. I don't know what I was expecting but this was not it.

In another month or so there will be a bunch of tablets out there. Ones that I can download apps for the Kindle and Nook and the like.

I am not a parent but I don't see myself paying $250 for a color e-reader for junior. It is too expensive. I wouldn't mind having color for reading magazines but I am not going to pay that much for a device just to read magazines.

And 8 hour battery life? Please, that is just insulting.

mcooke66 · 10-27-2010, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poohbear_nc

It was probably launched primarily to support their new kid's books and magazines initiative. I guess they figured kids' books needed to be in color to sell.

I have 3 kids and over a thousand children’s books, maybe 10 are in black and white. yes children’s books need to be in color because they have PICTURES!
Anyone spend 250 on a wii for family entertainment.? 250 for a replacement of hundreds of magazines and children’s books filling up my house seems like a good deal. Should I even go into text books.
Of course you can choose a different color tablet, laptop whatever to read all these things on but it makes sense for B&N to offer a tablet dedicated to reading.
Do not forget that the subculture of eInk is just that, the average person reads all day on an LCD and wonders what the fuss is about.

mcooke66 · 10-27-2010, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjottawa

@notatoad

I get that "vibe" from the market too. People don't understand what sets e-ink and tablets apart.

While the new Kindle screen is very nice, it still isn't "paper-white."

I suspect, if and when an e-ink display can be made that is truly, blindingly bright white, it will affect the market's perception.

In parallel, if a good looking colour e-ink display can be built, it might be the thing that sways some of the market away from tablets to e-readers.

The choice would then become one of "month long battery, VERY easy on the eyes, no moving images" versus "short battery life, video but kind of tiring on the eyes."

I don't think most people appreciate e-ink as much as we "the converted" do.

*** *** ***

Regarding the NOOKcolor: it IS a tablet, not an e-reader.

Perhaps B&N bet on the right horse though and market ignorance will gut e-ink device sales.

I don't think most people care to be converted to eInk

ProfCrash · 10-27-2010, 02:17 PM

I would not buy an ITouch or IPad or netbook or other such electronic device for a young child. They are too likely to break it. Probably when a child gets to the 10-12 age range I would consider it but would want to supervise the child using it. Maybe my nieces and nephews are advanced but by that age most of the books are chapter books and have very few pictures so color is less important.

I cannot see giving a begining reader a tablet or e-reader unless it was specifically constructed to be kid proof or pretty darn close to kid proof.

The Wii is not something that my nieces and nephews pick up and carry around. It is in a specific location and they don't touch it unless an adult is there to supervise them. The only kids in my family that can change the discs and the like are over the age of 10. Even then, an adult goes down to check on them on a regular basis. So while they use it for entertainment, they are not holding the device in their hands while doing so. They are holding the remote and know that they are in deep dodo if they break anything with the remote but that is another story.

It is not that it is a bad idea but it seems strange to me that B&N would go this route. If I want to buy a tablet, why would I buy one from B&N? What advantage do they have over the other tablets? There are going to be plenty of tablets to choose from that will not have to be hacked in order to download a ton of apps. I probably will be able to pick up a comprably priced tablet, download the Nook and Kindle apps, and use color that way. I can still access NOOK Kids and get the benefit of those books without using the NOOK Color.

Kindles, Nooks, and Sonys have been selling pretty nicely. With the recent price drops, they have moved from being a niche product to being a more mainstream product. Adding a new product to your product line that is more expensive and that will be in competition with even more companies then your current product line is an interesting choice.

I hope it works out for B&N. Competition is a good thing. The Kindle has improved because of pressure from B&N. This makes me happy.

Richey79 · 10-27-2010, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jswinden

I agree too with one addition--I think all the Android tablets are slow, crippled, and have a horrible OS on them. I played with several and they all blew chunks.

I absolutely agree with you. Google have said several times very publically that Android 2.2 is not yet ready to be a tablet OS. This thing is based on 2.1. But then, I suppose, you could argue that by locking it up as 'merely' an ereader, B&N are not using it as a tablet OS. You could argue that....

Quote:

Originally Posted by volwrath

I may buy one and slap the Android Kindle App on there

It's going to be a closed system: unless you're willing to jailbreak it and put your own version of Android on it, I shouldn't think B&N will let you.

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Wonder what quality of speaker(s) it will have?

I can see marketing it as a platform for reading books with your kids as actually having some potential, and something as simple as playing sounds when they move certain parts of images/animations would be pretty cool. All depends how many authors/publishers/coders B&N can get to design books specifically for a format this device can display - or whether B&N can piggy-back on stuff released for the iPad.

carld · 10-27-2010, 02:18 PM

As I posted in another thread, to me it falls into a no-man's land. It's considerably more expensive than the Kindle (or the nook for that matter), but still a lot less functional than an iPad, especially since you probably can't get outside the reader interface without jailbreaking the device.

Maybe there's a market segment there, maybe not.

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10-27-2010, 01:18 PM	#23
cjottawa Tempus fugit. Posts: 91 Karma: 911 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: Kindle Keyboard	@notatoad I get that "vibe" from the market too. People don't understand what sets e-ink and tablets apart. While the new Kindle screen is very nice, it still isn't "paper-white." I suspect, if and when an e-ink display can be made that is truly, blindingly bright white, it will affect the market's perception. In parallel, if a good looking colour e-ink display can be built, it might be the thing that sways some of the market away from tablets to e-readers. The choice would then become one of "month long battery, VERY easy on the eyes, no moving images" versus "short battery life, video but kind of tiring on the eyes." I don't think most people appreciate e-ink as much as we "the converted" do. * * *** Regarding the NOOKcolor: it IS a tablet, not an e-reader. Perhaps B&N bet on the right horse though and market ignorance will gut e-ink device sales. Last edited by cjottawa; 10-27-2010 at 01:21 PM.

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10-27-2010, 11:26 AM	#16
karthwyne Connoisseur Posts: 59 Karma: 480 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Atlanta, GA Device: Kindle Wifi, Kindle US	LCD for reading? Not for me. I also do not understand why they would give this the Nook name - it's just a (restricted) tablet as others have stated.

10-27-2010, 11:46 AM	#17
mldavis2 Coffee Nut Posts: 410 Karma: 298350 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Missouri Device: Kindle 3; K4PC; Calibre	The point made by @Barty is well taken. While I have no intent to use my K3 for anything but text, I suppose there are those who try to make their readers fit magazines and other color materials. (If you have a lawnmower, everything looks like grass.) Since magazine format is not conducive for cramming into a 5" wide display, I would expect that, even given retention of the colors, the photos would lose much of their impact in an artificially reduced size display. I'll continue to use my big 24" computer monitor or hold the pMag in my hands.

10-27-2010, 12:05 PM	#19
OakIris Addict Posts: 310 Karma: 18487 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Colorado Device: Kindle 3 WiFi; Kindle Paperwhite	When I bought my Kindle, I wanted an eReader, not a laptop substitute. I like my Kindle for reading and my Mac laptop or PC desktop for surfing the Web, using office apps, playing games. At some point, once perfected and made cheap enough so that even I can buy such a device, an eInk colour display might be very nice, but an eReader with an LCD screen doesn't appeal to me. As for children, I think I would still introduce them to "real" children's books first - but that's probably just my prejudice in that I think the tactile experience adds to the pleasure when one is just learning to enjoy books. Once you are addicted to reading, like I am, it no longer matters, its the immersive experience of reading that counts. Holly

10-27-2010, 12:23 PM	#20
bill_mchale Wizard Posts: 1,451 Karma: 1550000 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Maryland, USA Device: Nook Simple Touch, HPC Evo 4G LTE	I think the Nook Color could be an interesting, addition to the world of Android Tablets that are intended for book reading. It appears to have got the touch screen right (i.e., not resistive), and the price is decent. If the software works well, and if there is at least some way of expanding it somewhat to play games and the like, then it might be successful. Time will tell (Perhaps the forth coming Velocity Micro Tablet (not the eReader) might be a better choice though... -- Bill

10-27-2010, 12:31 PM	#21
notatoad Enthusiast Posts: 40 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: Graphite Kindle 3G	it seems like e-reader is becoming a synonym for a tablet with a weak processor and limited ram, with the literati and others coming out of asia. it makes me sad that B&N is continuing this trend, i feel it will hurt the market for proper e-readers. the general public already has a hard enough time understanding the benefit of e-ink, this will just further the misconception that e-readers are basically an ipad that isn't as good.

10-27-2010, 01:14 PM	#22
volwrath Guru Posts: 713 Karma: 1001739 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Nashville, TN Device: SGS3/PW2/Nexus72	I may buy one and slap the Android Kindle App on there

10-27-2010, 01:22 PM	#24
JLeighs Addict Posts: 219 Karma: 1208646 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wisconsin Device: K3, PW	I think it's a nice gadget, but it's not what I'm looking for in an e-reader. An e-reader with an LCD screen is a turn-off, which is why I went with the Kindle 3. I also don't need or want color or a touchscreen in an e-reader which is another reason I went with the Kindle. I do hope this isn't the future of e-readers because if so, I'll be hanging on to my current Kindle until it disintegrates.

10-27-2010, 01:22 PM	#25
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	I don't need a glorified tablet. I need an e-reader. I don't know what I was expecting but this was not it. In another month or so there will be a bunch of tablets out there. Ones that I can download apps for the Kindle and Nook and the like. I am not a parent but I don't see myself paying $250 for a color e-reader for junior. It is too expensive. I wouldn't mind having color for reading magazines but I am not going to pay that much for a device just to read magazines. And 8 hour battery life? Please, that is just insulting.

10-27-2010, 02:17 PM	#28
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	I would not buy an ITouch or IPad or netbook or other such electronic device for a young child. They are too likely to break it. Probably when a child gets to the 10-12 age range I would consider it but would want to supervise the child using it. Maybe my nieces and nephews are advanced but by that age most of the books are chapter books and have very few pictures so color is less important. I cannot see giving a begining reader a tablet or e-reader unless it was specifically constructed to be kid proof or pretty darn close to kid proof. The Wii is not something that my nieces and nephews pick up and carry around. It is in a specific location and they don't touch it unless an adult is there to supervise them. The only kids in my family that can change the discs and the like are over the age of 10. Even then, an adult goes down to check on them on a regular basis. So while they use it for entertainment, they are not holding the device in their hands while doing so. They are holding the remote and know that they are in deep dodo if they break anything with the remote but that is another story. It is not that it is a bad idea but it seems strange to me that B&N would go this route. If I want to buy a tablet, why would I buy one from B&N? What advantage do they have over the other tablets? There are going to be plenty of tablets to choose from that will not have to be hacked in order to download a ton of apps. I probably will be able to pick up a comprably priced tablet, download the Nook and Kindle apps, and use color that way. I can still access NOOK Kids and get the benefit of those books without using the NOOK Color. Kindles, Nooks, and Sonys have been selling pretty nicely. With the recent price drops, they have moved from being a niche product to being a more mainstream product. Adding a new product to your product line that is more expensive and that will be in competition with even more companies then your current product line is an interesting choice. I hope it works out for B&N. Competition is a good thing. The Kindle has improved because of pressure from B&N. This makes me happy.

10-27-2010, 02:18 PM	#30
carld Wizard Posts: 2,698 Karma: 4748723 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	As I posted in another thread, to me it falls into a no-man's land. It's considerably more expensive than the Kindle (or the nook for that matter), but still a lot less functional than an iPad, especially since you probably can't get outside the reader interface without jailbreaking the device. Maybe there's a market segment there, maybe not.

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