Where's the excitement? - Page 2

ebooklvr · 04-15-2007, 10:28 AM

Hi Adam.

I've spent some time lurking in the forums lately while I made up my mind on whether to buy an iLiad. I'm happy to say that I did (thanks mostly to the activity on this forum) and it should arrive this week. Once I have it I plan on dusting off my rusty C/Unix/Linux skills and helping out. I admit that I'll be a bit cautious at first until the unbricking capability is available but I'm sure that my developer curiousity will get the best of me.

Thanks to Adam B. and all the rest of you who've spent time pushing the boundaries of the iLiad and posted info on here. It's definitely made it easier for newcomers like me to get started.

CommanderROR · 04-15-2007, 10:56 AM

I must admit that I'm really looking forward to seeing what the developers here will create once the unbricking utility is here.
Those apps together with mobipocket support could very well bring the Iliad and the corresponding mobileread.com sections back to life...

Adam B. · 04-15-2007, 06:41 PM

While we're on the subject of thanking people, I want to thank Antartica, Matthijs, Hudson, iRex, and Scotty. Seriously, without all you guys, I'd be in dark as far as all this crazy porting stuff goes.

It looks like the excitement hasn't died, but is merely hibernating.

This is a good thing. I'd really like to see the iLiad develop into a strong device, and grow out of the niche market. Hopefully as new programs are developed, it can become more than just an expensive document/book reader.

tororebelde · 04-16-2007, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam B.

It could be possible that there aren't as many technical people on here as I expected. But with the tutorial I made in the VMWare release thread, it should show everyone how easy the initial porting steps really are. ...

Adam, can say your VMWare dev enviroment was really helper for me - I sure for a lot of people here too. I was just a reader since you released it here and iRex bring me the shell access. Now I'm just playing to do a lot of ports I hope some of them would in the future be usefull to the people here. From now I'm in the scope to let a Qt application run on iLiad, because I'm a Qt developer and I'm too lazy to learn Gtk now

This post is just to bring some hope to mr iLiad forum people. Adam you're one of the outstanding collaborator/developer/active forum user here, a lot of people great too. Don't let it down. I'm afraid I can brick up my iliad too, so I'm very cautious

but don't want to stop now!

Adam B. · 04-16-2007, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tororebelde

Adam, can say your VMWare dev enviroment was really helper for me - I sure for a lot of people here too. I was just a reader since you released it here and iRex bring me the shell access. Now I'm just playing to do a lot of ports I hope some of them would in the future be usefull to the people here. From now I'm in the scope to let a Qt application run on iLiad, because I'm a Qt developer and I'm too lazy to learn Gtk now

This post is just to bring some hope to mr iLiad forum people. Adam you're one of the outstanding collaborator/developer/active forum user here, a lot of people great too. Don't let it down. I'm afraid I can brick up my iliad too, so I'm very cautious

but don't want to stop now!

Bringing QT to the iLiad would be great!

There are a few QT apps that I would like, but I don't know the first thing about setting up QT. Good luck.

R2D2 · 04-16-2007, 05:57 PM

I am still here. I was excited to use the iLiad in my everyday work. Too small screen size for my needs prevented me using it every day. Having not the posibility for a proper synchronization for some time didn't help either. But maybe I will be excited some time again. 3rd party development looks interesting, although the non existant care free reflash procedure prevents me from becoming active myself.

Ooooommm.

UncleDuke · 04-16-2007, 09:32 PM

i've read a lot of the stuff here and it seems to me that you iliad folks paved the way for a lot of the stuff that we sony folks have enjoyed the fruits of. we have better tools and stuff 'cause you were there first.

keep it up. i'll bring the doughnuts.

ElaHuguet · 04-17-2007, 04:39 PM

And some of us bought the iLiad, read the forum until we were familiar with our new toy (and had showed it off a little), and then sat down... to read.

I'm one of those, I only visit every so often to see if there's any exciting news, and then I go back to my books. I actually forgot to upgrade my iLiad until a few days later the last time one was available. :P

bruce · 04-18-2007, 02:08 PM

Indeed, I've spent the last few weeks since receiving my iLiad reworking the scripts I use to (re)format html and text files into ebooks for my old RocketBook to generate nicely formatted pdf's for my iLiad.

I lost a week or so trying to use html directly until giving up once I realized better looking (and better performing) results were possible using html2ps and ps2pdf. It's a pity the html support on the iLiad is so poor. I miss being able to dynamically resize to a larger font when my eyes get tired at night as with my reb1100.

But then the books started piling up on my iLiad and that triggered a reading binge -- I didn't realize how much I appreciated nicely formatted books until finally having a device capable of properly rendering them.

I fully expect to start developing and porting tools to the iLiad once an unbrick utility or procedure is available. I have a number of dictionaries and quizzing programs for my Hawaiian and Japanese studies I would love to bring over to the iLiad. But I'm already dependent enough on it in my daily routine that I don't want to face not having my iLiad for weeks should I screw something up while developing. I really hope iRex make available a mechanism for unbricking/reinstalling the OS soon!

Henry Loenwind · 04-18-2007, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antartica

I'm more of a kernel guy that an application programmer. I attribute that to the fact that I love to make drivers or complex engines (console-mode apps), but for UI apps, I tend to use scripting languages (tcl/tk, python/gtk, pike/sdl).

He he, I'm more of an application programmer, but I tend to leave UIs for other people...

But I'm short on time (the "reallife", you know...), so I have more plans than anything else.

BTW: Perl compiled for "for Sharp Zaurus SL-5500 (rom ver 2.39), OS Embedix, release 1" as linked here seems to work on the iLiad. Anyone interested in crosscompiling a newer version? In a way that allows to build extensions in the development vm? Then I could try to create the bindings for the iLiad's specialities...

R2D2 · 04-18-2007, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElaHuguet

And some of us bought the iLiad, read the forum until we were familiar with our new toy (and had showed it off a little), and then sat down...

...to tailor a case. ;-)

btw.: still waiting for the on-beach-iLiad-first-(user) waiting for shipment-people

;-)

ElaHuguet · 04-24-2007, 01:24 PM

LOL at you, R2D2. I finally got a new sewing machine for my birthday and was able to finish the velcro straps on the case, btw.

And, due to the conundrum of both loving my husband, and having to go over his dead body to the beach with the iLiad... those photos might have to wait a while. :P

04-16-2007, 05:57 PM	#21
R2D2 Mad Scientist Posts: 294 Karma: 242 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Germany Device: Zaurus, HTCMagician, iLiad	I am still here. I was excited to use the iLiad in my everyday work. Too small screen size for my needs prevented me using it every day. Having not the posibility for a proper synchronization for some time didn't help either. But maybe I will be excited some time again. 3rd party development looks interesting, although the non existant care free reflash procedure prevents me from becoming active myself. Ooooommm. Last edited by R2D2; 04-16-2007 at 06:00 PM.

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04-15-2007, 10:28 AM	#16
ebooklvr iLiad newbie Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2007 Device: Iliad/Zaurus SL-5500	Hi Adam. I've spent some time lurking in the forums lately while I made up my mind on whether to buy an iLiad. I'm happy to say that I did (thanks mostly to the activity on this forum) and it should arrive this week. Once I have it I plan on dusting off my rusty C/Unix/Linux skills and helping out. I admit that I'll be a bit cautious at first until the unbricking capability is available but I'm sure that my developer curiousity will get the best of me. Thanks to Adam B. and all the rest of you who've spent time pushing the boundaries of the iLiad and posted info on here. It's definitely made it easier for newcomers like me to get started.

04-15-2007, 10:56 AM	#17
CommanderROR eink fanatic Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2	I must admit that I'm really looking forward to seeing what the developers here will create once the unbricking utility is here. Those apps together with mobipocket support could very well bring the Iliad and the corresponding mobileread.com sections back to life...

04-15-2007, 06:41 PM	#18
Adam B. Addicted to Porting Posts: 1,697 Karma: 7194 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN Device: iRex iLiad, Nokia 770, Samsung i760	While we're on the subject of thanking people, I want to thank Antartica, Matthijs, Hudson, iRex, and Scotty. Seriously, without all you guys, I'd be in dark as far as all this crazy porting stuff goes. It looks like the excitement hasn't died, but is merely hibernating. This is a good thing. I'd really like to see the iLiad develop into a strong device, and grow out of the niche market. Hopefully as new programs are developed, it can become more than just an expensive document/book reader.

04-16-2007, 09:32 PM	#22
UncleDuke books & doughnuts Posts: 882 Karma: 37857 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: usa Device: sony reader, kindle2	i've read a lot of the stuff here and it seems to me that you iliad folks paved the way for a lot of the stuff that we sony folks have enjoyed the fruits of. we have better tools and stuff 'cause you were there first. keep it up. i'll bring the doughnuts.

04-17-2007, 04:39 PM	#23
ElaHuguet iLiad freak Posts: 339 Karma: 243 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mallorca, Spain Device: iRex iLiad	And some of us bought the iLiad, read the forum until we were familiar with our new toy (and had showed it off a little), and then sat down... to read. I'm one of those, I only visit every so often to see if there's any exciting news, and then I go back to my books. I actually forgot to upgrade my iLiad until a few days later the last time one was available. :P

04-18-2007, 02:08 PM	#24
bruce Software Developer Posts: 27 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tokyo, Japan Device: Libra Colour, Sage, Oasis, Voyage, Paperwhite, iLiad, reb1100	Indeed, I've spent the last few weeks since receiving my iLiad reworking the scripts I use to (re)format html and text files into ebooks for my old RocketBook to generate nicely formatted pdf's for my iLiad. I lost a week or so trying to use html directly until giving up once I realized better looking (and better performing) results were possible using html2ps and ps2pdf. It's a pity the html support on the iLiad is so poor. I miss being able to dynamically resize to a larger font when my eyes get tired at night as with my reb1100. But then the books started piling up on my iLiad and that triggered a reading binge -- I didn't realize how much I appreciated nicely formatted books until finally having a device capable of properly rendering them. I fully expect to start developing and porting tools to the iLiad once an unbrick utility or procedure is available. I have a number of dictionaries and quizzing programs for my Hawaiian and Japanese studies I would love to bring over to the iLiad. But I'm already dependent enough on it in my daily routine that I don't want to face not having my iLiad for weeks should I screw something up while developing. I really hope iRex make available a mechanism for unbricking/reinstalling the OS soon!

04-24-2007, 01:24 PM	#27
ElaHuguet iLiad freak Posts: 339 Karma: 243 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mallorca, Spain Device: iRex iLiad	LOL at you, R2D2. I finally got a new sewing machine for my birthday and was able to finish the velcro straps on the case, btw. And, due to the conundrum of both loving my husband, and having to go over his dead body to the beach with the iLiad... those photos might have to wait a while. :P

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