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All the rest is probably pretty much opinions and distortions from points of view, but I just loved the Marshall Crook video.
My guess on "remainders" is those books left over after a given "run time" that are then disposed of by being piled on a table in the middle of the store and sold cheap. Thot I'd throw that in since I am the next poster after slackv's posted question. |
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the fact that there is so much great literature in the public domain means modern authors have to compete with ghosts as well. they always had to but now those public domain books can be distributed for free instead of $4.99 from Penguin. on balance, it isn't looking very good for the book publishing industry. Last edited by markbot; 09-29-2010 at 11:00 PM. |
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Remember that the Wall Street Journal of today is not the Wall Street Journal of a few years ago. Thanks to the sale, it is no longer unbiased or neutral in any way, though it continues to pretend to be. You may agree or disagree with its political (and by association business) angle, but never forget that it has one, quite a strong one.
Back to ebooks: If I buy a pbook for $18 at a big box store, the author gets, what, maybe a dollar or so? If I buy an ebook for $3 from Smashwords, the author gets $2.00. And I'll be buying a lot more of those $3 ebooks. Maybe not six times as many (I do need to sleep sometimes, not to mention pay for my Internet connection) but I'll certainly be buying twice as many, at the very least. So I can spend $18 at Border's and some author gets $1, or I can spend $6 at Smashwords and some author(s) get $4. The only ones I see getting the shaft are the inefficient distributors and the people trying desperately to cling to their old business model, even if they have to legally mandate that every automobile carry a buggy whip. |
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A remainered book is one that is unsold and has been "returned" by the bookseller. The book is marked so that it can't be returned as a new book and it's sold at a hefty discount. Authors do not earn royalties on remaindered books. Some authors have a clause in their contract that gives them first dibs on their remaindered books at the lowest remainder price, so that they can buy cheap copies to sell on tour.
Generally, the books will be sold to a company that specializes in remaindered books, which is why I put "returned" in quotes in the first paragraph. Rather than going back to the publisher, remaindered books might go straight to the remaindering company. |
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With the last paper book I published, earlier this year, the publisher held more than 68% against returns. I have an author friend who recently reported that his publisher withheld even more than that. A book sold at Costco is a specially negotiated deal that won't pay the author a royalty based on the normal, full retail price. There will probably be a paragraph in the contract about books sold at a steep discount or promotional discount or somesuch, sharply reducing the royalty. So, no, if you buy a $30 book at Costco for $15.99, the author is not getting his usual royalty based on $30. Even with books sold at a chain like Barnes & Noble, B&N might have demanded such a stiff discount that the lower royalty will apply. |
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Thanks for confirming remaindered books represent $0 royalty.
But what about the "sale" tables that are so prominent in some stores (certainly in Canada)? A great example is once the hard cover has had its run, the trade paperback comes in, or perhaps even the mass. On one table, the hard cover with a $9.99 sticker and on another the recently arrived trade paperback with a 20% off sticker at $12.99. If you really want the paperback, it's more money ... or pick up the "discontinued" hard cover for less. I am calling these books "remainders" -- that may be the wrong term. My understanding is these are hard covers that have been returned to the publisher (or maybe "over-printed") and then bought back as remainders. The original price was $30; now they are $9.99 and the bookshop is still making some margin. Aren't these books royalty free as well? |
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Few journalists or industry representatives ever mention the 25-40% of all hardbacks that are printed, shipped out, shipped back, and shredded without anyone cracking a spine. It's a wasteful business with unsustainable practices.
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LJ,
That's always riled me up as well - the grotesque wastage. Hoping eBooks can bring sanity back into the market along with the ever increasing number of PoD houses. Paul. |
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And even with newer technology such as print-on-demand, printing in bulk is still a lot cheaper for something that sells in any quantity. Even taking in account transport, storage and wastage. Of course ebooks don't have these problems, but they are still a growing market. |
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... "Not everyone believes that the shift to digital publishing is necessarily bad for writers. Novelist E.L. Doctorow, who has taught creative writing for 23 years at the NYU Creative Writing Program, says the industry may be transforming away from big corporate-owned publishers back to a cottage industry like it was many years ago. The shakeout could help prune an overcrowded market. "Writers come up from nowhere, from the ground up, and nobody is looking for them or asking for them, but there they are," says Mr. Doctorow. "If there is a weeding out that's going to occur because of such difficulties, it may be all to the good." |
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"digital disruption" - brilliant stuff. Perhaps they should hand in their cellphone, laptop, mp3 player (oops, sorry, iPod), heck even give back the Gutenburg press, thanks.
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