01-02-2014, 11:53 AM | #16 |
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And I would like to second Keats.
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01-02-2014, 04:37 PM | #17 |
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I found that my library has a bilingual version of Les Fleurs du Mal, so I second that.
And as I dearly love Keats, I'll third him. |
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With my last nomination I will fourth Keats.
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Montale and Ungaretti: they are roughly the same generation, both fought in the great war. Montale is probably best described by the motivation for his Nobel Prize for literature 1975, which states Quote:
Ungaretti is very different in style: he is one of our "ermetic" poets, his lines are distilled to the utmost, and so hard to render - this review in the Guardian makes the point much more effectively than I could ever do. |
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01-02-2014, 05:57 PM | #19 |
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Thanks, Paola. That was a fascinating review. I checked my library and it has the Creagh translation of Ungaretti which the reviewer recommended. Also Galassi for Montale; I shall have to make do.
My library also has the Italian edition of Ungaretti's war poetry, of special interest to me this centenary year. I think I'll check that out as well, just to get a sense of the language. |
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Yes, interesting review - oh, the difficulties of translating poetry! I'm glad you think the Sayers translation of Dante is okay paola, as that is the one I have.
(Even more off topic, when I finished reading the review, I saw a news item that Elizabeth Jane Howard has died aged 90. I love her books.) |
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to get a feel for the language, though, especially with these poets that are extremely well known in Italy, there are some readings on youtube that can give you an idea of how they sound. Here is Ungaretti reading Fratelli/Brothers http://youtu.be/mi3UGy9BKFs and below I miei fiumi/My rivers (born in Egypt, then spent time in Paris, finally his variuos heritages coming together in the Isonzo, where he was fighting as a private in the Great War for Italy: http://youtu.be/8SAegn2KtDc oops, getting carried away in the nomination thread!!! Last edited by paola; 01-03-2014 at 05:20 AM. |
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01-03-2014, 07:16 AM | #23 |
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Nice selections!
I have nomination(s), but little access to the internet. On New Years Eve my internal disc broke down....the PC doctor is recovering its data+ change of disc(1 TB, I'm happy to say). Perhaps it will be done today, or else on monday but that'll be too late. Hope for the best. |
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I'll third Larkin.
As to the Burns, I read the article Hamlet53 linked to, and found this nugget about Auld Lang Syne: Quote:
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01-03-2014, 01:53 PM | #25 |
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Oh my, I missed this til now.....can I throw out a couple? Do they have to be Ebooks? Can I nominate my own work.
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....withdrawn....
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If Jon were here..... I'll have to assume so, but we may have to wait a couple of centuries to know for sure..... but seriously is this really intended to be only 'literary' poetry? (not that we really know what that is...) |
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01-03-2014, 03:39 PM | #29 |
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"What is literature for the purposes of this club? A superior work of lasting merit that enriches the mind. Often it is important, challenging, critically acclaimed. It may be from ancient times to today; it may be from anywhere in the world; it may be obscure or famous, short or long; it may be a story, a novel, a play, a poem, an essay or another written form. If you are unsure if a work would be considered literature, just ask!"
It's always worth asking. In the end nominators and voters are given the task of determining the suitability to the category. In both books clubs there seems to be hits and misses for categories so I wouldn't worry too much about it. As we've deduced that the waiting period is waived in the literary club, I would like to put forth: Birthday Letters by Ted Hughes again. I read it in 2012 and would like a re-read as well as some discussion. |
01-03-2014, 03:50 PM | #30 |
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I'll withdraw my nomination in that case and will let you all carry on. Sorry I got over-excited there for a moment....you know how those poets are.
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