08-19-2012, 10:06 PM | #16 |
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Ok, but why would that preclude the free discussion of DRM? Are you saying that it is NOT legal action, but rather the moderators who forbid people from exchanging ideas and information? If they own the site that is fine because they can do whatever they want with their property, but I am still not clear on why DRM removal discussion is not allowed and who forbids it.
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Are these other discussions that we are not to speak about here in other forums? Can you tell me where they are? I am not trying to be rude I just do not understand it when there is reluctance to speak freely on ANY issue. |
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08-19-2012, 10:33 PM | #18 | |
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... then read the first 3 posts of this thread again, and you'll see that it fits exactly. Last edited by ixtab; 08-19-2012 at 10:37 PM. |
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08-19-2012, 10:50 PM | #19 | |
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08-20-2012, 02:53 AM | #20 | |
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It is because of the DMCA that DRM removal instructions are not permitted on MobileRead. But, you'll say, the DMCA also says "Nothing in this section shall enlarge or diminish any rights of free speech or the press for activities using consumer electronics, telecommunications, or computing products.". Whoop-de-woo. Unfortunately (but wisely) the owner of MobileRead isn't willing to take the risk of being prosecuted or perhaps arrested and jailed on visits to the US. (See Dmitry Sklyarov.) |
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08-20-2012, 04:43 PM | #21 |
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The bottom line is that MobileRead is a private forum, with owners that are free to choose whichever rules they feel like. This is not a free speech forum nor is it an unmoderated mad-house. Since MobileRead has decided that DRM methods and discussions are not something it wishes to host, we are then free to abide by the rules or go elsewhere. Has nothing at all to do with your right to stand on the street corner and debate DRM with anyone who wishes to join in.
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08-20-2012, 06:43 PM | #22 |
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The reasons I want to copy is so that I can view MY azw files on MY tablet. Many of the books have graphs, charts, and diagrams that I can best read on the larger tablet.
If the owners of the site have decided they do not want to have these discussions it is certainly their right. However, I question as to how much danger they would be in for merely hosting a site that described how to remove DRM. If they offered to do the service I could see that may be a problem. Unless you are discussing the how, why, and where of a terrorist act I just do not see how mere internet chat is a problem. But yes I will certainly comply if this is what the owners of the forum want. Last edited by crescere; 08-20-2012 at 06:48 PM. |
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It is what they want. Long ago I took the advice "google Apprentice Alf," and all is good in my ebook life. My ebooks are liberated the moment they hit Calibre, and I can then put them on any of my devices.
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Seriously, this is a forum about e-books. It is full of helpful intelligent people. It is a great asset for enriching your e-reading experience. You may not like the rules but it is their rules which they put in place to keep from getting sued and if you are going to play in their sandbox you have no choice. Why not leave the politics and the rudeness out going forward and enjoy the this forum for what it is? |
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08-22-2012, 11:14 PM | #27 |
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Although this thread seems to have been hijacked a bit I would just like to say thanks to the people who gave advice re DRM. I would like to make clear that I was freely given the book by my friend...I know that digital stuff is not lehgally allowed to be "freely given" in the same way as paper books. But my conscience is clear. I was only wanting to know the technical answer or be posted to a helpful link.
There seems to be plenty of software to help you un-DRM a book that you have bought yourself. My friend could easily use this to convert to an ordinary mobi. However, she is not technical or interested in downloading the software necessary. So my question was - technically - does software exist that can un-drm books that you acquire but have not personally bought? The answer seems to be "No", but obviously open to any enlightenment. |
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The programs that un-DRM stuff need to use the encryption key that can only be extracted from a device that "owns" the media to be decrypted. As ixtab said, brute-forcing a decryption key is not a realistic objective unless the encryption was badly broken to begin with (which is what Dmitry Skylarov was detained for, as mentioned above).
So realistically, only the OWNER of encrypted media (or "licensee" depending on how you look at it) can decrypt DRMed media (for their own personal use). Distributing that decrypted media to others would be morally decadent and/or illegal. |
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Get the Kindle app for whatever tablet you have. You will be able to download any of your Kindle books to that tablet.
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