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Old 04-11-2011, 06:11 AM   #29566
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Making lists for my trip to Wolverhampton. Things I need to buy or do before going, a packing list for my suitcase, a packing list for my carry-on bag, lists of items I want to buy in the UK (hopefully the Pound stays as low as it is at the moment) and a list of things I need look into/research for the things I want to do in Wolverhampton, Birmingham and Coventry (train/bus info, addresses, opening times, etc)

Only 4 weeks to go before my trip!
Excuse if I'm wrong, but I get the distinct feeling you are kind of excited about this trip.

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Old 04-11-2011, 07:22 AM   #29567
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Excuse if I'm wrong, but I get the distinct feeling you are kind of excited about this trip.

Yes, I went to the University of Wolverhampton (half the year in WLV and the other half I studied in Amsterdam) so for me it's nice to go back. A couple of years ago I also went for a couple of days but that was in February and it was really cold. This time I'm planning to do various touristy things in the area we never did when I lived there.

Also I love England and use my yearly trip to stock up on things that are cheaper such as dvd's (especially tv series are cheaper), clothing and Lush things. In the past I stocked up on books but not since getting my reader, this saves me a lot of space and weight for other things .

I'm also somewhat neurotic when going on a trip, afraid I to pack things or to do or buy things when I'm there, hence the lists.
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Old 04-11-2011, 11:49 AM   #29568
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Wolverhampton, Coventry and Birmingham ....
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Old 04-11-2011, 12:46 PM   #29569
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Wolverhampton, Coventry and Birmingham ....
It might not be a region where many tourists go (at least not many foreign tourists) but that has it's advantages too, for one it isn't as expensive as going to London, especially the hotel is much cheaper than what I paid last year for 4 nights in a (similar) London hotel.

I'm especially looking forward to going to Coventry since I've never been there. But also things we never did in Birmingham (Cathedral, Back to Backs, Jewelry Quarter).
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Making lists for my trip to Wolverhampton. Things I need to buy or do before going, a packing list for my suitcase, a packing list for my carry-on bag, lists of items I want to buy in the UK (hopefully the Pound stays as low as it is at the moment) and a list of things I need look into/research for the things I want to do in Wolverhampton, Birmingham and Coventry (train/bus info, addresses, opening times, etc)

Only 4 weeks to go before my trip!
Don't forget to have lotsa books on your reader (about 15 times more than you could possibly read) - just in case!
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Old 04-11-2011, 10:57 PM   #29571
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Mr M has a sore eye. It has been a little bit weepy for a week or so, but so were ours as we both had colds. I just thought he had a cold too.

Now it is worse. I have been bathing it with a cotton pad in salty water, but it is not getting any better. I hope it is not infected. It stays open. Poor Kitty!
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Right now (whilst you mob must have been sleeping) I am worrying about the fur seal hunt!

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Old 04-12-2011, 03:35 AM   #29573
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Old 04-12-2011, 03:49 AM   #29574
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Right now (whilst you mob must have been sleeping) I am worrying about the fur seal hunt!

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Now theres a topic that is both a shame to Canadians and in some areas pride. I personally don't advocate the seal hunts, I find it distasteful and a waste of time. It won't stop until there are other viable ways for those people to make a living. The average family earns as much as 35% of their annual income through these seal hunts.

I think if the images of the seals being, well you know how they are harvested, weren't so graphic and ugly, no one would object at all. I have been there for the hunt and I found it unpleasant, to say the least. I also found a meat packing plants kill room unpleasant, it's all how you look at it.

I again say that I do not advocate it in any way, but if you have an open mind and are willing to look beyond your preconceived or media derived notions of what is happening, take a look here for some information from "Fisheries and Oceans Canada" the regulatory body that polices the seal hunt.

I am not trying to change your mind, just give you some information to base you opinion on something other than the media and PETA.

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Old 04-12-2011, 03:59 AM   #29575
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I think if the images of the seals being, well you know how they are harvested, no one would object at all. I have been there for the hunt and I found it unpleasant, to say the least. I also fount a meat packing plants kill room unpleasant, it's all how you look at it.
I agree. I haven't seen either in person, but I find it extremely unfair that so many people gets to emotional about seals and happily eat meat every day. Years ago I came back from a vacation in Namibia with a couple of sealskin purses and everybody was horrified. The sealskin came from a farm, if I remember correctly, and I don't see why a seal farm would be more objectionable than a cow, pig or chicken farm.

Of course the matter is different when the animals killed belong to a potentially endangered species, or excess killing may endanger the species.

I am not a vegetarian but I can understand people who are. What I cannot understand or accept is people who choose some species arbitrarily and decide these species should be protected more than others. I remember a guy ranting on a forum years ago that the Chinese were barbarians because they eat dogs. I'm sure this guy ate cow, pig or chicken several times a week. What's the difference?
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[...] and I don't see why a seal farm would be more objectionable than a cow, pig or chicken farm. [...]
perhaps because seals and dogs are cuter than others?
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perhaps because seals and dogs are cuter than others?
And a little lamb is not cute?
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And a little lamb is not cute?
sure, but they're also delicious
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sure, but they're also delicious
I'm sure dog is delicious too.
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lamb's a bit fatty in my experience....
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