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Old 04-02-2011, 03:31 PM   #29266
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Very much so, definitely part of the culture. As I always say Religion is insidious.

It is, but not necessarily in the way you think. The theology of your religion specifies what you believe. The culture in which you are raised influences how you express your belief.

There was an interesting front page article in the Wall Street Journal a while back about possible internal pressure in the Vatican for the Pope to canonize a couple of Latino saints. The problem was that the RC church in the US was losing market share in the Hispanic communities to some of the "charismatic" Christian sects.

One convert quoted in the article stated that the singing and testifying of the charismatic services made him feel "closer to Jesus". Religious belief resides on a gut level, and the Dionysian nature of the charismatic service was a better emotional fit for him than the reserved, dignified, Apollonian nature of an RC ceremony. It mapped better to his cultural background.

Ask yourself if Islam would look anything like it does today if the prophet Mohammed had been born a Teuton in what is now Germany instead of an Arab in Arabia. If you think it would, think again. Those are very different cultures, and the expression of the religion would be affected by those differences.

(You may also assume that a lot of things thought part of Islam predate it, and were aspects of the underlying culture it arose in that Islam simply accepted and codified.)
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Old 04-02-2011, 03:40 PM   #29267
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It is, but not necessarily in the way you think. ..
Ummm, sorry Dennis but YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT I THINK.

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Old 04-02-2011, 03:44 PM   #29268
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Old 04-02-2011, 03:45 PM   #29269
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Ummm, sorry Dennis but YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT I THINK.
Which is why I said "not necessarily".

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Old 04-02-2011, 03:50 PM   #29270
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I'm more fluent in French or German than English
But here it is: Cultural Scientist is what I am. Excuses if I didn't make that clear enough, Kenny.
along the lines of Cultural Anthropologist? I had thought about specializing in that when I was getting my degree.


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Old 04-02-2011, 03:53 PM   #29271
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Which is why I said "not necessarily".


I did.
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Well, when you start you response by quoting mine and saying:

"It is, but not necessarily in the way you think. The theology of your religion specifies what you believe. The culture in which you are raised influences how you express your belief."

Your clear meaning is that you think I believe certain things that are wrong. You have no idea if that is or is not the case. Unless want to back up that statement with specifics where I've posted some particular belief.

In the future please take a bit more care in how you phrase your responses to insure you are saying what you mean.

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Well, this is the "Silliness" thread....
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along the lines of Cultural Anthropologist? I had thought about specializing in that when I was getting my degree.


right now I am cleaning out and re-arranging my spice cabinet. I have a LOT of junk! *sigh*
No, not human behaviour as such, but things humans make or reflect on.
Nice, when it's done : rearranging a spice cabinet.
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Alphabetically? By colour? In order of heat? We need to know.
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Alphabetically? By colour? In order of heat? We need to know.


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I know: United States----Middle East -- India and so on. Neatly divided
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Well, when you start you response by quoting mine and saying:

"It is, but not necessarily in the way you think. The theology of your religion specifies what you believe. The culture in which you are raised influences how you express your belief."
I think this is one case where the indefinite pronoun would have helped. I don't think the pronouns were intended to refer to you, kennyc, except for the first one.

I think the meaning intended was

"It is, but not necessarily in the way you think. The theology of one's religion specifies what one believes. The culture in which one is raised influences how one expresses one's belief."
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I think this is one case where the indefinite pronoun would have helped. I don't think the pronouns were intended to refer to you, kennyc, except for the first one.

I think the meaning intended was

"It is, but not necessarily in the way you think. The theology of one's religion specifies what one believes. The culture in which one is raised influences how one expresses one's belief."
Very possibly. But it is that first sentence that is the issue to me, even your edit above is still directed at the quoted passage it is replying to. (perhaps better to say "It is, but not necessarily in the way SOME PEOPLE think.....")

Thus my comment about taking care in phrasing, particularly when quoting someone.

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I think this is one case where the indefinite pronoun would have helped. I don't think the pronouns were intended to refer to you, kennyc, except for the first one.

I think the meaning intended was

"It is, but not necessarily in the way you think. The theology of one's religion specifies what one believes. The culture in which one is raised influences how one expresses one's belief."
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Very possibly. But even your edit above is still directed at the quoted passage it is replying to. (perhaps better to say "It is, but not necessarily in the way SOME PEOPLE think.....")

Thus my comment about taking care in phrasing, particularly when quoting someone.
Never mind that. What about the spices?
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