The Vent and Rant Thread

[poohbear_nc]

Sample #8 made me dizzy ....

[Cinisajoy]

Originally Posted by Hitch

Hi:

I'm actually quite fond of architectural/drafting hands. I spent the bulk of my former career in the RE Development Biz (yup, me and the new Prez; in fact, we once shared an architect!*) and grew to love drafting hands. :-)

Hitch

*NOT that way. Get your minds OUT of the gutter!

Wouldn't have thought of THAT if you hadn't said it.

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by Cinisajoy

Wouldn't have thought of THAT if you hadn't said it.

Well, in previewing it, before I hit "post," I noted that I'd said that I'd grown to love "drafting hands" AND that I'd shared an architect with the presumptive Prez. I figured, with the wits around here, I'd best get the disclaimer in upfront. :-)

Hitch

[Cinisajoy]

Originally Posted by Hitch

Well, in previewing it, before I hit "post," I noted that I'd said that I'd grown to love "drafting hands" AND that I'd shared an architect with the presumptive Prez. I figured, with the wits around here, I'd best get the disclaimer in upfront. :-)

Hitch

Oh yes, disclaimer needed. I just found out some people misread my name. Ok so the pronunciation is correct.

[Katsunami]

Originally Posted by DMcCunney

That they are offered for sale means somebody buys them. I'd rather not know who...

Same sort of people who use Comic Sans everywhere they can.

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by Katsunami

Same sort of people who use Comic Sans everywhere they can.

...and Papyrus. Damn you, James Cameron!

Hitch

[CRussel]

Originally Posted by Hitch

Charlie:

Far be it from me to disappoint you. Ironically, the even-worse-than-these are not in my font manager, or at least, not easily accessible, but these are just a FEW, for your viewing pleasure.

These are the (mostly) LEGIBLE awful ones. I kid thee not. People expect you to PAY for these. (And here you thought shopping on Dafont was bad, eh? Nyet. Try Creative Market, HungryJpeg, MightyDeal...they host the REAL doozies.)

Hitch

Oooh, that's painful!

[DMcCunney]

Originally Posted by Hitch

I'm actually quite fond of architectural/drafting hands. I spent the bulk of my former career in the RE Development Biz (yup, me and the new Prez; in fact, we once shared an architect!*) and grew to love drafting hands. :-)

My late father was a draftsman in his earlier days, and I used to have a set of drafting instruments he had originally owned. I got fairly proficient with them back when, but it's been decades since I needed to use those skills.

(I was proficient at making mechanicals with drawing board, illustration boards, t-square, non-reproducing blue pencil, eXacto knives, rubber cement, hand waxers and typeset galleys back when too, but it's been decades since I needed to do that as well. That makes me happy.)

Hitch

*NOT that way. Get your minds OUT of the gutter!

Drafting hands were intended to be legible, so they wouldn't have the sorts of problems you encounter.

My mother did long ago gleefully point out the stylized capital M my dad used to sign his drawings, which was precisely a "get your mind into the gutter" bit. I think dad wanted to see who might look closely enough to notice. I don't believe anyone ever did...
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Dennis

[DMcCunney]

Originally Posted by Katsunami

Same sort of people who use Comic Sans everywhere they can.

And we now also have Comic Serif as an alternative: http://idsgn.org/posts/comic-sans-comic-serif/
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Dennis

[badgoodDeb]

Originally Posted by DMcCunney

My mother did long ago gleefully point out the stylized capital M my dad used to sign his drawings, which was precisely a "get your mind into the gutter" bit. I think dad wanted to see who might look closely enough to notice. I don't believe anyone ever did...
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Dennis

Now I'm dying to see what that signature looked like!

My dad did a bit of drafting, for the small metal fabrication business he owned. I still write 1/4 in the same style he used for drafting. (No slash; the diagonal of the 4 stands in for the slash.)

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by CRussel

Oooh, that's painful!

I guess, if you think about it, if you're poor, and you can make a font like that (if one dare call it a "font"), and put it in various bundle packages, and make a few shekels...{shrug}. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, eh?

It's not something that most of us would do. But if I were in dire straits, in a country where a few bucks could make a difference, I guess I could see doing that.

What slays ME are the ones that are clearly cursive. How the HELL do they envision those working, vis-a-vis the connections?



Hitch

[DMcCunney]

Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

Now I'm dying to see what that signature looked like!

I don't have any copies now I could display.

But think of a capital M as a stylized rendition of a pair of spread legs, tweaked a bit to make the resemblance explicit.

My dad did a bit of drafting, for the small metal fabrication business he owned. I still write 1/4 in the same style he used for drafting. (No slash; the diagonal of the 4 stands in for the slash.)

I don't believe I ever inherited any of my dad's style, but his draftsman days were long behind him by the time I was old enough to be aware of such things.
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Dennis

[DMcCunney]

Originally Posted by Hitch

I guess, if you think about it, if you're poor, and you can make a font like that (if one dare call it a "font"), and put it in various bundle packages, and make a few shekels...{shrug}. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, eh?

It's not something that most of us would do. But if I were in dire straits, in a country where a few bucks could make a difference, I guess I could see doing that.

Save that I don't see this as being done by folks who are that poor to try to make a bit of revenue. (The simple requirements of what you need to be able to do it make being that poor unlikely.)

Most of what I see is the result of an effort to do something the person doing it thinks looks good.

But it's a subset of something I learned long ago. If you are a designer, working for a client, you give the client two proposed samples of what might be done, and let him pick the one you want to do. Give him three or more, and guaranbleepingteed, he'll choose the one you think is the worst of the lot as the one he wants.

I assume the client has no design sense, wants crap, and must be sold on doing otherwise as part of the process.

I do such things as a hobby these days, and part of any assignment I accept is an explicit "You determine what the piece should say. What it looks like is my call, and you don't get a vote. I'm better at this than you are, which is why you are asking me to do it, so do as I say."

What slays ME are the ones that are clearly cursive. How the HELL do they envision those working, vis-a-vis the connections?

Do they consider it at all? I doubt it.
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Dennis

[gridlewak]

Originally Posted by Hitch

Charlie:

Far be it from me to disappoint you. Ironically, the even-worse-than-these are not in my font manager, or at least, not easily accessible, but these are just a FEW, for your viewing pleasure.

These are the (mostly) LEGIBLE awful ones. I kid thee not. People expect you to PAY for these. (And here you thought shopping on Dafont was bad, eh? Nyet. Try Creative Market, HungryJpeg, MightyDeal...they host the REAL doozies.)

Hitch

Looks to me like these fonts were made with medical doctors in mind. All prescriptions here are printed via computers these days, so, now they can add their illegible signatures to them too.

[DMcCunney]

Originally Posted by gridlewak

Looks to me like these fonts were made with medical doctors in mind. All prescriptions here are printed via computers these days, so, now they can add their illegible signatures to them too.

The signature doesn't need to be legible. It just needs to be identifiable as belonging to the doctor who wrote the script.

The script does need to be legible, and taking the human out of that loop is feature.
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Dennis