New database backend - testers needed - Page 19

mbovenka · 08-14-2013, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Adoby

Ah... Another Norton Commander survivor. I get my fix mostly on Midnight Commander nowadays.

Total Commander FTW

kovidgoyal · 08-14-2013, 09:12 AM

@Adoby: Turned out to be easier than I thought it would, just a 100 lines of code. https://github.com/kovidgoyal/calibr...f3d1c4e7a574b9

Adoby · 08-14-2013, 09:40 AM

I am stunned! From the vague suggestion of a tabbed interface for virtual libraries to an improved implementation in around a day...

Will have to do some more work on my virtual libraries.

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Originally Posted by mbovenka

Total Commander FTW

Doesn't count. It is graphics based. Unclean and a herasy and abomination!

BetterRed · 08-14-2013, 11:06 AM

@Adoby I don't know anyone who would ordinarily run multiple 'instances' of firefox - apart from programmers and people who do things just because they can be done.

Never had a norton anything on any of my computers - I had my first dual pane file manager on Star and then on Lisa, wrote it myself first in modula2-ish and then in smalltalk-ish - I even had it on Warp. Today I use an elderly version of xplorer2.

When I said "I think dual pane interface to two physical libraries would be more useful than virtual library tabs" I was not intending to imply that it was a functional alternative to virtual library tabs - only that I would find it more useful. The most VR's I have is 5, so Alt/R and a couple of up-arrows is fine. Wouldn't mind having the VL menu in the standard context menu though.

BR

ParadiseLost · 08-14-2013, 11:23 AM

Wow, I love all the insane new additions coming to calibre. The only requests that I would have are:

1. Would it be possible to have the menu bar icon arrows all at mid height like "add books" versus the "library" button which is at the bottom? (connect/share, quality check, view manager are also at the bottom). I think that helps a smidge on the "polish" of an amazing program.

2. In the new cover grid display would it be possible to set the bg color? ie. black or white or whatever? Perhaps some may want to add an image for the bg? Just curious

Love the idea of the tabbed virtual libraries. Hoping this works as Mr. Goyal suggested with both the cover grid and the list view. Thanks again for your work.

Edit: nevermind number 2 >.>

DoctorOhh · 08-14-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ParadiseLost

In the new cover grid display would it be possible to set the bg color? ie. black or white or whatever?

Already a feature.

kovidgoyal · 08-16-2013, 04:24 AM

The arrows being at the bottom indicate that you clicking the button will popup a menu. Arrows at the side indicate that you either have to right click or click the arrow to popup the menu.

kovidgoyal · 08-16-2013, 04:26 AM

Version 0.9.44 contains the following newdb changes since the last beta build:

1) Virtual Libraries as tabs
2) Center the grid view
3) Indicate which books are on device when a device in connected in the grid view

hakan42 · 08-16-2013, 05:20 AM

Amaaaaazingly fast...

@kovid, do you actually do anything else but eat, drink and coding on calibre all day long?

kovidgoyal · 08-16-2013, 05:26 AM

It's amazing how much you can do when you enjoy your work

DoctorOhh · 08-16-2013, 06:16 AM

The centering of the cover grid has a blip. As I slowly readjust the book details pane until there is almost room for another book, there seems to about a 50px area where the books align to the left and leave a large gap to the right. See attached.

kovidgoyal · 08-16-2013, 07:17 AM

@DoctorOhh: Indeed, a bug in my layout calculation, fix will be in next build.

DoctorOhh · 08-16-2013, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

@DoctorOhh: Indeed, a bug in my layout calculation, fix will be in next build.

Between testing your new backend and Calibre Companion's beta release of the next version it is like Christmas came early.

Adoby · 08-16-2013, 07:36 AM

Great update!

Love the tabs for virtual libraries!

One suggestion for improvement regarding the tabs.

It would be nice if calibre attempted to preserve some of the context when switching virtual library.

For instance when I have a virtual library open, and a book highlighted, and then open the tab for All Books, then it would be very nice if the book that was highlighted could still be highlighted and in the view.

Or if I have All books open and highlight a book, and open another tab, it would be great if that book still was highlighted and in view.

If the book isn't present in the newly opened tab, then it would be nice if the view opened at a position where that book would be, using the current sort order, if it had been present. And as long as no new book is highlighted that "virtual bookmark" is preserved. A sort of helpful memory.

That way it would be easy to use the tabs to "search" for books, by for instance the same author, under different tabs. Or see if the same book is present under some other tab.

For large libraries it could be a performance hit, so perhaps it should be optional. A checkbox somewhere for "Use virtual bookmark when switching virtual libraries".

Example use case:
Sort by author. You find some SF Omnibus by David Weber in the Omnibus virtual library tab (tags:"omnibus") and highlight it. But when you switch to the SF tab (tags:"SciFi") it isn't there. You switch back to the Omnibus tab and edit metadata for the book to add the "SciFi" tag needed to be shown in the SF virtual library. Switch over to SF and verify that the book is there. Then you switch to see All books by Weber. And then click on the Fantasy tab to see all Fantasy books by Weber. The omnibus is not there, but other books by David Weber are there. When you switch to the Non-fiction tab you just find a book about the philosophy of experimental biology by Marcel Weber. But when you then switch to Fiction you are back with the SF Omnibus you started with highlighted, since you didn't highlight any other book while flipping between virtual libraries.

Whenever a book is highlighted, the virtual bookmark is updated.
Every time a virtual library is opened, the virtual bookmark is applied. If an exact match, then the book is highligthed. Otherwise the view is updated so the next book, closest to matching the virtual bookmark in current sort, is in view but not highlighted.

kovidgoyal · 08-16-2013, 08:45 AM

@Adoby: That's rather more effort than it's worth to me. Personally, I would find the idea of switching contexts while working on a set of books to be too jarring. I tend to use VLs to create distinct subsets of books, not overlapping ones.

08-14-2013, 11:23 AM	#275
ParadiseLost Enthusiast Posts: 49 Karma: 20364 Join Date: Mar 2013 Device: None	Wow, I love all the insane new additions coming to calibre. The only requests that I would have are: 1. Would it be possible to have the menu bar icon arrows all at mid height like "add books" versus the "library" button which is at the bottom? (connect/share, quality check, view manager are also at the bottom). I think that helps a smidge on the "polish" of an amazing program. 2. In the new cover grid display would it be possible to set the bg color? ie. black or white or whatever? Perhaps some may want to add an image for the bg? Just curious Love the idea of the tabbed virtual libraries. Hoping this works as Mr. Goyal suggested with both the cover grid and the list view. Thanks again for your work. Edit: nevermind number 2 >.> Last edited by ParadiseLost; 08-14-2013 at 11:34 AM.

08-16-2013, 06:16 AM	#281
DoctorOhh US Navy, Retired Posts: 9,865 Karma: 13806776 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: North Carolina Device: Icarus Illumina XL HD, Nexus 7	The centering of the cover grid has a blip. As I slowly readjust the book details pane until there is almost room for another book, there seems to about a 50px area where the books align to the left and leave a large gap to the right. See attached. Attached Thumbnails

08-16-2013, 07:36 AM	#284
Adoby Handy Elephant Posts: 1,736 Karma: 26785668 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Southern Sweden, far out in the quiet woods Device: Thinkpad E595, Ubuntu Mate, Huawei Mediapad 5, Bouye Likebook Plus	Great update! Love the tabs for virtual libraries! One suggestion for improvement regarding the tabs. It would be nice if calibre attempted to preserve some of the context when switching virtual library. For instance when I have a virtual library open, and a book highlighted, and then open the tab for All Books, then it would be very nice if the book that was highlighted could still be highlighted and in the view. Or if I have All books open and highlight a book, and open another tab, it would be great if that book still was highlighted and in view. If the book isn't present in the newly opened tab, then it would be nice if the view opened at a position where that book would be, using the current sort order, if it had been present. And as long as no new book is highlighted that "virtual bookmark" is preserved. A sort of helpful memory. That way it would be easy to use the tabs to "search" for books, by for instance the same author, under different tabs. Or see if the same book is present under some other tab. For large libraries it could be a performance hit, so perhaps it should be optional. A checkbox somewhere for "Use virtual bookmark when switching virtual libraries". Example use case: Sort by author. You find some SF Omnibus by David Weber in the Omnibus virtual library tab (tags:"omnibus") and highlight it. But when you switch to the SF tab (tags:"SciFi") it isn't there. You switch back to the Omnibus tab and edit metadata for the book to add the "SciFi" tag needed to be shown in the SF virtual library. Switch over to SF and verify that the book is there. Then you switch to see All books by Weber. And then click on the Fantasy tab to see all Fantasy books by Weber. The omnibus is not there, but other books by David Weber are there. When you switch to the Non-fiction tab you just find a book about the philosophy of experimental biology by Marcel Weber. But when you then switch to Fiction you are back with the SF Omnibus you started with highlighted, since you didn't highlight any other book while flipping between virtual libraries. Whenever a book is highlighted, the virtual bookmark is updated. Every time a virtual library is opened, the virtual bookmark is applied. If an exact match, then the book is highligthed. Otherwise the view is updated so the next book, closest to matching the virtual bookmark in current sort, is in view but not highlighted. Last edited by Adoby; 08-16-2013 at 08:25 AM.

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08-14-2013, 09:12 AM	#272
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 44,019 Karma: 22669822 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	@Adoby: Turned out to be easier than I thought it would, just a 100 lines of code. https://github.com/kovidgoyal/calibr...f3d1c4e7a574b9

08-14-2013, 11:06 AM	#274
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 20,684 Karma: 26966376 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	@Adoby I don't know anyone who would ordinarily run multiple 'instances' of firefox - apart from programmers and people who do things just because they can be done. Never had a norton anything on any of my computers - I had my first dual pane file manager on Star and then on Lisa, wrote it myself first in modula2-ish and then in smalltalk-ish - I even had it on Warp. Today I use an elderly version of xplorer2. When I said "I think dual pane interface to two physical libraries would be more useful than virtual library tabs" I was not intending to imply that it was a functional alternative to virtual library tabs - only that I would find it more useful. The most VR's I have is 5, so Alt/R and a couple of up-arrows is fine. Wouldn't mind having the VL menu in the standard context menu though. BR

08-16-2013, 04:24 AM	#277
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 44,019 Karma: 22669822 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	The arrows being at the bottom indicate that you clicking the button will popup a menu. Arrows at the side indicate that you either have to right click or click the arrow to popup the menu.

08-16-2013, 04:26 AM	#278
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 44,019 Karma: 22669822 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Version 0.9.44 contains the following newdb changes since the last beta build: 1) Virtual Libraries as tabs 2) Center the grid view 3) Indicate which books are on device when a device in connected in the grid view

08-16-2013, 05:20 AM	#279
hakan42 Zealot Posts: 136 Karma: 60 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Munich, Germany Device: Nook Classic rooted; Galaxy S IV with Aldiko, other older devices	Amaaaaazingly fast... @kovid, do you actually do anything else but eat, drink and coding on calibre all day long?

08-16-2013, 05:26 AM	#280
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 44,019 Karma: 22669822 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	It's amazing how much you can do when you enjoy your work

08-16-2013, 07:17 AM	#282
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 44,019 Karma: 22669822 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	@DoctorOhh: Indeed, a bug in my layout calculation, fix will be in next build.

08-16-2013, 08:45 AM	#285
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 44,019 Karma: 22669822 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	@Adoby: That's rather more effort than it's worth to me. Personally, I would find the idea of switching contexts while working on a set of books to be too jarring. I tend to use VLs to create distinct subsets of books, not overlapping ones.

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