Unutterably Silly So what are you doing RIGHT NOW?

[obs20]

Right now I'm trying to decide about getting the HTC Aria

[WT Sharpe]

Originally Posted by DMcCunney

Maybe they are hoping HTML5 will take over the world, and they won't need Flash for video support.

I can see I'm going to have to get on the stick & learn HTML5. It seems to be pretty popular.

[DMcCunney]

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

I can see I'm going to have to get on the stick & learn HTML5. It seems to be pretty popular.

Well, it's becoming so, and there's a lot of development taking place.

What most people think about is the possibility of video without requiring a Flash plugin, but that's only one aspect of it. Note that the spec is still under development, and has not been finalized.

You can see what's there so far here: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html
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Dennis

[devilsadvocate]

Originally Posted by DMcCunney

Well, it's becoming so, and there's a lot of development taking place.

What most people think about is the possibility of video without requiring a Flash plugin, but that's only one aspect of it. Note that the spec is still under development, and has not been finalized.

You can see what's there so far here: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html
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Dennis

All the more impressive considering HTML was never meant to do anything like what it does now.

I see one concern in general: Flash might be a pain, but it's separate, and can be turned off/blocked. If an entire page is rendered in HTML5, it'll require some major browser rewriting to block all those annoying flashing images at badly-done sites (or, for that matter, anything coded with malicious intent).

[maianhvk]

@ Iridal: oh you're so lucky!! congrats

right now: I'm enjoying Schubert's Piano Trio No. 2.

[DMcCunney]

Originally Posted by devilsadvocate

All the more impressive considering HTML was never meant to do anything like what it does now.

Most things in computers were never intended to do what they do now. Hindsight is always 20/20, but foresight is the reverse. Where we are now may seem an obvious progression in retrospect, but it wasn't to the folks in the early efforts.

It's a reason I'm philosophical about things like the continual stream of security patches for Windows. Most of them fix "buffer overflow" errors, where a program expects a certain amount of data, allocates a buffer in memory to hold it, and then gets more than it expected. Where does the excess data get put? Chances are, someplace where it will overwrite something important and possibly compromise the system.

But as much as I wish all programmers would follow the maxim "Never trust your data", I can't blame the folks who wrote the code needing patching too much. It never occurred to them back then that bad guys might deliberately try to overflow buffers to compromise systems, and there is no particular reason it should have.

I see one concern in general: Flash might be a pain, but it's separate, and can be turned off/blocked. If an entire page is rendered in HTML5, it'll require some major browser rewriting to block all those annoying flashing images at badly-done sites (or, for that matter, anything coded with malicious intent).

I'm not sure why. The reason why people despise Flash, aside from annoyance value, it that it requires a plugin, and you are at the mercy of it. Current versions of Firefox have a "plugin container" helper app that provides a sandbox for such things, so if the Flash player crashes and burns, it doesn't take the browser with it.

It a page is using embedded video in HTML5, the mere <video> keyword isn't enough. You still need the codec the video was created with.

And the spec is still being developed, and browsers are all being rewritten all the time as it is, so I expect code to get in there to give the user control over what actually gets rendered Not all the annoying stuff uses Flash in any case. Consider the HTML <blink> tag, or animated GIFs, or all the stuff possible in JavaScript. Controls are there for that (though many users may not be aware of how to get to and use them), and controls will evolve for other stuff, too.
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Dennis

[maianhvk]

arggg, this song is driving me crazy. I heard it many times on MTV in the World Stage ads, I know instantly that I've known this song for years! but I just can't call its name google doesn't help. it's a rock song I think, the vocalist is wearing a black tuque (oh he looks like U2's guitarist The Edge but younger and he doesn't play guitar at the time). The lyrics is difficult to hear and I don't get a single word from what he's singing. no it's not that I don't get a single word - it's that I don't get a straight several words together long enough to google them. and I can't find the ads on youtube to post here, so that I can get advice from you guys... frustrated I am

[beppe]

Originally Posted by maianhvk

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Wonderful Avatar.

[desertblues]

Yours remind me of Frieda Kahlo, whose is it, Beppe?

[beppe]

Originally Posted by desertblues

Yours remind me of Frieda Kahlo, whose is it, Beppe?

I keep changing it.
Emil Nolde
I put that one in my profile.
But I am not yet sure of what I will have.

[desertblues]

Originally Posted by beppe

I keep changing it. Nolte

Of course thanks

[beppe]

Originally Posted by desertblues

Of course thanks

Nolde, Emil. I misspelled him. I just saw a beautiful movie, in an expressionist key and that put me in the mood. The shadow of the vampire. A masterpiece.
I am still trying for an inspiring avatar. Something that puts me in a good mood and that fits my way.

[desertblues]

Originally Posted by beppe

Nolde, Emil. I misspelled him. I just saw a beautiful movie, in an expressionist key and that put me in the mood. The shadow of the vampire. A masterpiece.
I am still trying for an inspiring avatar. Something that puts me in a good mood and that fits my way.

Beautiful.

[beppe]

Originally Posted by desertblues

Beautiful.

Thank you. For more than one reason as you can see. It is very nice to have good friends as you.

[Histerius]

Finished the cover, the client is very satisifed! Oh yeah! Hopefully the book will be published on Monday