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Old 02-22-2011, 06:11 PM   #256
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Updated manually. 2 quick questions:

1. What do I need to do to enable real page numbers for Amazon store bought books? Delete them and redownload from archive?
2. Will my Kindle automatically download real page data for books I uploaded myself? All of them have ISBN in their metadata (set in Calibre)

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Old 02-22-2011, 06:59 PM   #257
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1. What do I need to do to enable real page numbers for Amazon store bought books? Delete them and redownload from archive?
Make sure your Kindle is connected to Wireless (3G or Wi-Fi) with 3.1 installed and then do a "Sync & Check for Items" from the Menu.

See the following Amazon page for instructions showing how to do the above sync.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custom...200375850&#new

Once you've done that, any books that are already on your Kindle should be updated to support page numbers if those books support the feature.

Any books you download in the future will include page numbers if they support that feature.
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Old 02-22-2011, 09:01 PM   #258
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I took a look at the 3.1 source code, and the only differences (other then random code update/bug fixes) are: Amazon re-added the config files for compiling Kindle 3 kernels (yay!) and CPU Voltage raised from 1.25V to 1.275V (speed?)
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Old 02-22-2011, 09:18 PM   #259
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I took a look at the 3.1 source code, and the only differences (other then random code update/bug fixes) are: Amazon re-added the config files for compiling Kindle 3 kernels (yay!) and CPU Voltage raised from 1.25V to 1.275V (speed?)
Hmmm. The other thing that has made me leery of updating my Kindle is that when they pushed out 3.01, I couldn't read outside any more presumably because it would overheat in the sunlight (because they had the CPU running faster?).

They fixed this in 3.02, but it's something I'm worried about them breaking again (as I do a lot of reading outside when it's nice out). And since it's winter, still, there probably haven't been too many people reading outside...so maybe the problem is back, just not as obvious because of the time of year
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Old 02-22-2011, 10:40 PM   #260
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Hmmm. The other thing that has made me leery of updating my Kindle is that when they pushed out 3.01, I couldn't read outside any more presumably because it would overheat in the sunlight (because they had the CPU running faster?).

They fixed this in 3.02, but it's something I'm worried about them breaking again (as I do a lot of reading outside when it's nice out). And since it's winter, still, there probably haven't been too many people reading outside...so maybe the problem is back, just not as obvious because of the time of year
Kind of makes me hesitant to update.
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Old 02-23-2011, 12:09 AM   #261
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I took a look at the 3.1 source code, and the only differences (other then random code update/bug fixes) are: Amazon re-added the config files for compiling Kindle 3 kernels (yay!) and CPU Voltage raised from 1.25V to 1.275V (speed?)
That's one way to improve performance. Can they over clock the screen?
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Old 02-23-2011, 08:14 AM   #262
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I have a generic Kindle 3 with no hacks, no betas that was updated via WiFi about 15 minutes ago. My version number matches yours.
Perfect, thanks a lot for the info!
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Old 02-23-2011, 08:22 AM   #263
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No page number if book is not from Amazon
I just noticed that if your ebook was converted from ePub or if your book comes in native mobi format, not azw, you won't get page numbers anyway!
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How about the page numbers generated by calibre? Do I need to delete and re-add books I sent to my K3 via calibre email to my @kindle.com account? Is there any conflict with calibre generated page numbers and Amazon generated page numbers?
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I just noticed that if your ebook was converted from ePub or if your book comes in native mobi format, not azw, you won't get page numbers anyway!
As the post after yours suggests, Calibre has been updated to create page numbers for other books. I have not tried it yet but it apparently supports two methods, one less accurate and the other more accurate. But it is, I believe based on estimates of page length vis-a-vis character counts. I have not followed the issue closely so don't know if it can acquire the "real" page number complementary files from Amazon.
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I just noticed that if your ebook was converted from ePub or if your book comes in native mobi format, not azw, you won't get page numbers anyway!
Of course not! Why on earth should they spend time, effort and money creating a free "add on" for something that never brought them any money in the first place?! Page numbers are not even available for all ebooks available on Amazon - they've created the additional page number file for many thousands of ebooks, and are continuing to create more, but for them to create the file, first there has to be a print version of the ebook, and second, i would imagine they have to have access to that print version in an digital format.

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Is there any conflict with calibre generated page numbers and Amazon generated page numbers?
Whichever is loaded onto your Kindle second will overwrite the first. So if you buy a Kindle book from Amazon which has page numbers, and load that onto your Kindle, you'll have the Amazon-generated "print version" page numbers. If you then run the book through Calibre and reload it onto your Kindle, you'll get the Calibre-generated "pseudo" page numbers (unless you set Calibre not to generate page numbers, and the file name for the MOBI file is exactly the same as the original file name for the .azw file downloaded from Amazon (excluding the file extension of course)).
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Thanks Donna.

I just tried a sample: uploaded a book I already have on my K3 via calibre and email... no page numbers and it was duplicated on my K3 (it was already a prc file, so maybe that wouldn't work).

I deleted another book and then sent it to my K3 via calibre/email. No pages there either. It was originally an epub book converted to mobi.

I'm probably really good at choosing exceptions.
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Thanks Donna.

I just tried a sample: uploaded a book I already have on my K3 via calibre and email... no page numbers and it was duplicated on my K3 (it was already a prc file, so maybe that wouldn't work).

I deleted another book and then sent it to my K3 via calibre/email. No pages there either. It was originally an epub book converted to mobi.

I'm probably really good at choosing exceptions.
I'm pretty sure calibre only sends the page number file if it's sent via USB, not over email. I recently reloaded all of my books via USB w/calibre and all of them have page files.
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Calibre doesn't send the page numbers by email, just by the Send to Device option, as I understand.

(ah, post above beat me by a minute!)
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Ah ha. Thanks for that clarification. No worries then.

I prefer to use email/wifi for my book transfers to the K3. I don't like to put unnecessary charge cycles on the battery.
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