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Old 01-13-2009, 06:48 PM   #2626
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sitting here with a happy heart, brought husband home, he's as onery as ever, which means he's feeling good again. Even the cat from hell is happy.
I'm so pleased for you, DG.
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:51 PM   #2627
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sitting here with a happy heart, brought husband home, he's as onery as ever, which means he's feeling good again. Even the cat from hell is happy.
Glad to hear it
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Old 01-13-2009, 07:06 PM   #2628
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sitting here with a happy heart, brought husband home, he's as onery as ever, which means he's feeling good again. Even the cat from hell is happy.
Hooray! Glad to hear it!

For all of you who want this recipe, I googled it and this page came up! That was fast. If I get off my lazy butt I'll just take it from the recipe book.

Or is that copyright? Hrmm. Well mostly the secret is in his sauce, which comes up on google. Mom homemakes the sauce, then rubs the eggplant in egg and flour, fries it up (YUM) and then stacks it in a tray with the sauce and tops it off with parm and I think mozz.
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Just remember where you hide the keys! Nothing is worse than not finding something that you know you put in a "safe place".

We worry more about YOU staying out of trouble. If you don't stay out of trouble, at least tell us all the juicy details when you get back. We'll miss you! (you aren't going to D.C., are you???)
I am hiding the keys in my jacket pocket (and hanging it up high where the cats cannot get to it).

Nothing as exciting as D.C. I have to go to Berkeley (the Claremont Spa) for a few days. I expect I'll be stuck at the hotel most or all of the time I am there, mostly working.

DG ... glad to hear that your hubby is home. Tell him that we would prefer he not scare the crap out of us anymore for at least a few months.

OK .... Time to feed the cats and finish up my packing. Erk.
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Old 01-13-2009, 08:32 PM   #2630
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Hooray! Glad to hear it!

For all of you who want this recipe, I googled it and this page came up! That was fast. If I get off my lazy butt I'll just take it from the recipe book.

Or is that copyright?
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(I am not part of the legions of undead lawyers that my Montsnmags Enterprises retain, nor have I consulted them, but...)

...I don't believe you can copyright a recipe (in general, I believe in most locations). Or, to be more precise, I think you can't copyright lists of ingredients and methods, though you can copyright the actual, original presentation of them. Scanning a recipe from a book and re-posting it, let's say, here, would generally be a no-no, as likely would be verbatim reproduction (assuming the recipe could be construed as an "original literary work". Something like "Boil water. Add egg. Remove after two minutes" would likely struggle for "original literary work" status. ) Re-presenting a recipe in your own words/pictures here would not be infringing. Posting some telly-chef's cooking book to MR in ebook form would, of course, be infringing (at least according to MR's regional hosting requirements).

Basically: the written/performed form of a recipe is usually covered by copyright, but the method/list of ingredients of the recipe itself aren't. This is why some major food suppliers (eg. Coca Cola) are so secretive about their recipes, and are sometimes seen to address the matter of potential revelation (usually via an employee's attempts to sell the secret) through "trade secrets" legislation rather than copyright.

This is in very simple terms, of which there are, no doubt, many idiosyncrasies and details and exceptions and conditional riders and regional differences, as per usual copyright detail, but I'm sure you get the gist, and, if not, you'll find googling "copyright" and "recipes" should help you out.

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(I am not part of the legions of undead lawyers that my Montsnmags Enterprises retain, nor have I consulted them, but...)

...I don't believe you can copyright a recipe (in general, I believe in most locations). Or, to be more precise, I think you can't copyright lists of ingredients and methods, though you can copyright the actual, original presentation of them. Scanning a recipe from a book and re-posting it, let's say, here, would generally be a no-no, as likely would be verbatim reproduction (assuming the recipe could be construed as an "original literary work". Something like "Boil water. Add egg. Remove after two minutes" would likely struggle for "original literary work" status. ) Re-presenting a recipe in your own words/pictures here would not be infringing. Posting some telly-chef's cooking book to MR in ebook form would, of course, be infringing (at least according to MR's regional hosting requirements).

Basically: the written/performed form of a recipe is usually covered by copyright, but the method/list of ingredients of the recipe itself aren't. This is why some major food suppliers (eg. Coca Cola) are so secretive about their recipes, and are sometimes seen to address the matter of potential revelation (usually via an employee's attempts to sell the secret) through "trade secrets" legislation rather than copyright.

This is in very simple terms, of which there are, no doubt, many idiosyncrasies and details and exceptions and conditional riders and regional differences, as per usual copyright detail, but I'm sure you get the gist, and, if not, you'll find googling "copyright" and "recipes" should help you out.

Cheers,
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Did you know that the secret recipe for Coca Cola is housed less than a mile from my work? Super cool!

Anyway still lazy...thanks for the advice. Hrmm how to do this...
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Old 01-13-2009, 08:52 PM   #2632
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marc, if OZ is anything like Texas, You will want to put a plastic underliner along the base of you mulch....
It's odd, but as fecund as this place is, weeds are not as much a problem as I'd/you'd might expect. I suspect it's like the insects - competition keeps the pests down.

I should elaborate that the mulch I mentioned ("hoop pine mulch") is a very loose, large-pieced mulch. It's got a lot of hoop pine bark in it, which curls on itself and keeps it all loose, so it's less the kind of stuff you buy in bags at the supermarket, and more like the very loose stuff you might find walking through an actual forest. The scrub turkeys love it (we've a couple of baby turkeys running around our house at the moment). Also, we live on sand covered by a thinnish layer of humus.

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Marc, if the council doesn't like the much, maybe ground ivy? Is there something like that that's native to your area?
There's a native plant (or a horticultured variation thereof) called "Bronze Rambler". It is is prostrate grevillea, and quite pretty and spreading, though not a vine. We've put it in some parts of the back garden (to cover the stump from the old tree we had chopped down). It might make it into the new "garden" (that is, the ex-nature strip) out the front, but back from the road a ways.

The reason the council may have a problem with it is that I'm ostensibly making the nature strip "garden" by mulching it rather than leaving it as lawn. That is, they may feel it is no longer pedestrian-friendly (though if they want pedestrian-friendly, they're welcome to put a path in). They're advocates of indigenous plantings though, and "lawn" is the opposite of that, so they may be okay, assuming I don't make it too pedestrian-unfriendly. That's why I'll probably end up putting stepping stones in or keeping a reasonable strip plant-free - to please them, but, to be fair, to also give pedestrians (like us) somewhere safe to walk (since our neighbours over the road have planted trees to the edge of the road and it's a tight-ish road with the occasional driver that doesn't look for pedestrians and drives too fast around blind corners).

All this would probably be easier stated with a picture. All this is probably of little interest to anyone too.

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Old 01-13-2009, 10:14 PM   #2633
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Stepping stones could be nice. If you're feeling ambitious, you could cast them in concrete and stick pebbles, broken shells, bits of seaglass, etc. into them before they harden.

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It's funny, but one of my "projects" that I've been procrastinating forever over is to replace the dull, brass numbers and odd, foot-square "tile" hung on the front wall with a large mosaic possibly based on one of my photos (and including our house number). We have to get a new letter box first though, as our letter box is in the middle of that wall.

I've never done it (mosaic) before though, so I'll have to do some reading.

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I think I know why the turkeys love it, if you keep putting food down for them...
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Also, we live on sand covered by a thinnish layer of humus.
We live on heavy sea clay. And the only humus can be found in the parts where there have been a lot of fertilization done (mostly horse manure). That's why we started to use those wood chips, you can actually walk in the garden (aka not the grassy field) without growing with every step...
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