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Old 05-12-2015, 04:11 PM   #26041
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I am blessed to live in Hawaii where "business casual" is synonymous with "aloha attire" which means shoes with toes, a Hawaiian shirt, and long trousers. And absolutely no ties. That's the uniform for anything from the office to the opera, unless of course your a lawyer.

Occasionally we host business visitors from the mainland; you can always tell who they are by the ties they wear, but it usually only takes a day or two for them to lose the ties.
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Old 05-12-2015, 04:16 PM   #26042
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I am blessed to live in Hawaii where "business casual" is synonymous with "aloha attire" which means shoes with toes, a Hawaiian shirt, and long trousers. And absolutely no ties. That's the uniform for anything from the office to the opera, unless of course your a lawyer.

Occasionally we host business visitors from the mainland; you can always tell who they are by the ties they wear, but it usually only takes a day or two for them to lose the ties.

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Old 05-12-2015, 04:36 PM   #26043
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I am blessed to work in Science, where blue jeans and sneakers are de rigueur. Occasionally steel toed sneakers, depending on your job. You can tell the visitors (or the interviewees) by the suits and ties they wear.
I wore a skirt a few times, in the early years. Once, I did so because I knew I was taking tests that day, so it seemed safe. Nope. I got sent out on a task and had to go down a manhole ladder in my skirt. My partner decided that the polite thing was to let me go first, rather than the reverse! That was the last skirt I wore.
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Old 05-12-2015, 05:02 PM   #26044
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It's usually expected that I wear a tie on the first visit to a client's site, especially if it's a sales call. Fortunately, the clients that don't require a tie in general are now in the majority. Bloody stupid, pointless items of clothing.
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Old 05-12-2015, 05:08 PM   #26045
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So I'm curious about the experience of Americans with the relatively new television series Sherlock. I realize that "relatively new" is a relative term (there series has apparently been on since 2010), but I only recently purchased a television after many years without and just a few days ago I tried to watch the first episodes from DVD.

The problem, and this is probably qualifies as a rant against me and my hearing, but I cannot enjoy it for not being able to follow much of the dialogue. Benedict Cumberbatch [Sherlock Holmes] in particular often might as well be speaking Greek. So have any other Americans been watching this and had anything like this problem?
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Old 05-12-2015, 05:42 PM   #26046
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Yes, I have watched it from the beginning, and no, I don't have an issue with the dialog. But then, I've watched a LOT of UK TV over the years, so my ear is fairly attuned to mainstream British accents. OTOH, Yorkshire or Scotland based dramas have me reaching for the remote to turn on closed captioning. I suggest you enable closed captioning on the DVD player. It helps.
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Old 05-12-2015, 05:55 PM   #26047
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So I'm curious about the experience of Americans with the relatively new television series Sherlock. I realize that "relatively new" is a relative term (there series has apparently been on since 2010), but I only recently purchased a television after many years without and just a few days ago I tried to watch the first episodes from DVD.

The problem, and this is probably qualifies as a rant against me and my hearing, but I cannot enjoy it for not being able to follow much of the dialogue. Benedict Cumberbatch [Sherlock Holmes] in particular often might as well be speaking Greek. So have any other Americans been watching this and had anything like this problem?
I've not had any issues with it, but my husband, who has moderately heavy hearing damage and tinnitus from his years flying older aircraft (DC-7's, 9's, 3's, PV2's, yadda-yadda) has trouble with it. We simply use the closed-captioning.

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Old 05-13-2015, 04:58 AM   #26048
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My wife and daughter love it. I never got into it, but the times I've been in the room I've been able to follow along.
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Old 05-13-2015, 07:34 AM   #26049
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Thanks for the caption suggestion. I should have thought of it that even a program with English audio would have English captions as well. I really like the modern take on Holmes and Watson. Of course it is something of a throwback in crime dramas (at least in the US) from procedural to the old fashioned not worrying about the messy details and uncertainty of going through the judicial process and actually getting a conviction.

There really is not much I like on TV, but this and the Big Bang Theory offer enough to satisfy my needs.
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Old 05-13-2015, 12:50 PM   #26050
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There really is not much I like on TV, but this and the Big Bang Theory offer enough to satisfy my needs.
Susie is a TV addict, and I'm usually reading through the background noise. About the only thing she can put on to make me put my book down is Antique Road Show.
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Old 05-15-2015, 11:18 AM   #26051
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A quick comment on the 'high heels' topic. A woman that worked in one of the offices where I worked was a giant 4 foot 7 inches tall and always dressed perfectly for work. Nothing out of place. I did a quick double take one day in our local mall when I saw her in jeans and a T-shirt. The slogan on the shirt said.."High Heels Were Invented By A Woman Who Was Constantly Being Kissed On The Forehead". I got a good chuckle outta that!
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Old 05-17-2015, 03:41 PM   #26052
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I have recently been woondering about mens fashions which is kind of weird as I typically don't obsess over such things, but mainly I wonder what it would take to change mens fashions very much? It's really kind of boring anymore. My Dad, who was a Lawyer that started out as a New Mexico Cowboy, was really kind of a Peacock. Somehow, early in his legal career, he stumbled on a Chinese tailor that would come to Denver once a year. Without fail he would but a minnimum of 3 suits, and these were all 3 piece, the inside of the jackets and the back of the vests having matching satin brocade. He'd also get at least 2 pair of handmade cowboy boots and one or two stetsons a year. Casual Day for him was Saturdays and that meant dress slacks a nice western shirt and a bolo tie. Sundays were coveralls, his oldest broke in boots and a soft cap.

actually, the apple didn't fall terribly far from the tree I suppose. After years of being in either uniforms, or carhartts and steel toed boots, I'm told that I kind of dress up a bit
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Old 05-17-2015, 08:16 PM   #26053
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......... I'm told that I kind of dress up a bit
Me too. Yesterday, being Sunday, I wore a shirt with sleeves.


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Old 05-18-2015, 05:38 AM   #26054
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I wonder what it would take to change mens fashions very much?
Men's business fashion seems to change on the scale of decades, at least in overall look. (Lapels, collars, buttons and vents seem to change more quickly.) I've no idea how to move it more quickly. Perhaps if the younger British male royals set a trend?

I'd welcome a return to more interesting male attire, as in upper class 18th century, for example.

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