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Old 05-14-2008, 01:59 PM   #241
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What's everyone think now? And what's the advantage of this device over all the others?
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Old 05-14-2008, 02:11 PM   #242
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pls pls can some one spare me the wait !!!! its 2am in singapore i cant sleep
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Old 05-14-2008, 02:12 PM   #243
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What's everyone think now? And what's the advantage of this device over all the others?
Half the price seems to be the big advantage. But of course these are only estimates so far.

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Ah, I see now that I missed the intent of the front page story. $150.00 is not THE price; it's the RUMORED price. Ah. Yes. Rather.
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Well, I wouldn't quite call it a rumor. It's Astak's projection but it's not a guarantee. From their site:

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The problem there is eReader. The format is abysmal. The format is designed for palm sized screens. Most eReader eBooks have no paragraph indents and line spaces between paragraphs. This ruins the reading experience. Makes it not nice on a larger screen. What would be nice is to have Mobipocket as the main DRM format and then have eReader/LIT/BBeB as non-DRM formats available.
Yeah, but I can't see Amazon giving this away anymore, not with the Kindle at stake.

They have no incentive to make Mobipocket available anymore to other e-reading devices since they probably feel (and rightly so IMHO) that a cheaper device will canabalize sales of the Kindle.
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They have no incentive to make Mobipocket available anymore to other e-reading devices since they probably feel (and rightly so IMHO) that a cheaper device will canabalize sales of the Kindle.
I disagree. The device is going to be created and released, I think Mobipocket would rather than a percentage of the sales (since they own mobi) than none of the book sales that are made to users of these devices.

Yes, the prefer you buy a kindle and 100% kindle books, but secondly they would prefer you are buying mobi books rather than LIT or eReader.

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Ummm... No.

I've been reading, writing, programming and absorbing knowledge from every conceivable source for so long that I can usually determine a strange word's meaning from context. It helps that I was always really, really GOOD with words and definitions.

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At the rate of sounding "American" and probably opening up a whole other can of worms that might be best for another thread, dictionary support is NOT mandatory for me.

The only books I read are written in English. Most words can be figured out by the context used for the average person.

If needing to know the "exact" meaning of a word really bugs me, I have a very nice paper dictionary in my home office as well as this great thing called the internet.

If making a dictionary optional will keep this, or any e-reader price down, skip the dictionary!
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What you CAN get from page numbers you can't get from percentage. I have the Sony and NEVER once have I looked at the page number where it said for example, Page 123 of 684 and said to myself... damn I wish I knew what percentage of the book that was. It is so INSANE to have these page numbers. However, many times I have thought, oh damn I really should get to bed... wait I'm at page 652 of 678... I'm gonna finish this sucker. But, if it said, 96% read I have no idea if that mean there are 3 pages left or 100.

Stealing the term from John Stossel, "Give me a break...!"

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Gotta agree with Bob here, percentages mean nothing.

Even if it is a rough approximation (or best guess) of the actual page number after you've zoomed, changed font, stood on your head, what-have-you, it is still better than a percentage.
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I just want every book in e... or at least the ability to do that. I'd even pay a fee and carry different devices. I have two books that I'd like to read for work and none of them are e. I don't MIND reading p at all, but I sure wouldn't mind it on my computer or phone or device. :-(
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I disagree. The device is going to be created and released, I think Mobipocket would rather than a percentage of the sales (since they own mobi) than none of the book sales that are made to users of these devices.

Yes, the prefer you buy a kindle and 100% kindle books, but secondly they would prefer you are buying mobi books rather than LIT or eReader.

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I must respectfully disagree with you here Bob.

Amazon is out to win for the Amazon Kindle. The fact you can get books in Mobipocket format to work on the Kindle isn't exactly something they are trumpeting from every street corner.

We know about it, and maybe some Kindle owners who read this forum or are part of Kindle groups know about it but it's all about branding for Amazon.

"Get an Amazon Kindle! Shop at the Amazon Kindle store! (Oh, uh, yeah, uh, you can get Mobipocket books for the Kindle, uh, just don't tell anyone we told you that, k?) Get an Amazon Kindle! Shop at the Amazon Kindle store! Long live the Kindle!"

I could be wrong, but that seems to be the thrust of their advertising and PR to me.

Like the car ads of old where they have some deep voiced announcer race through the gas mileage and all the disclaimers at the end of the commercial. They talked so fast, you could barely make out what they were saying.
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I just want every book in e... or at least the ability to do that. I'd even pay a fee and carry different devices. I have two books that I'd like to read for work and none of them are e. I don't MIND reading p at all, but I sure wouldn't mind it on my computer or phone or device. :-(
I certainly agree. If my eyesight keeps deteriorating so quickly, I'm going to have to figure out some way to read e-books via the big screen TV. Anything, whatever it takes in order to read.
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Amazon is out to win for the Amazon Kindle. The fact you can get books in Mobipocket format to work on the Kindle isn't exactly something they are trumpeting from every street corner.
No, I think you missed my point.

Yes, Amazon wants everyone to choose the Kindle and buy Kindle books.

But, for those that DON'T choose the Kindle, Amazon wants them to buy Mobipocket books! Amazon gets a cut of every Mobipocket book sold.

So, I don't see Amazon discontinuing licensing the Mobipocket Reader software/DRM to third party eBook Reader manufacturers. They actually have an incentive to do this. Not because they want to create compentition for Kindle but because they know it realistically exists and they can still have a way to get some back end revenue for the sale of NON-Kindle devices if those said devices support Mobi.

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What support do WinCE devices such as these have for web browsing and the like? Apart from PDF docs, eBooks aren't really important to me; what I really want is to be able to download my RSS feed before I leave the house and read the articles on the way in to work. Throw in a bit of light web use and email access via a bluetooth /WiFi connection and I'm sold. What are the chances of that being possible on the Mentor?
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They have no incentive to make Mobipocket available anymore to other e-reading devices since they probably feel (and rightly so IMHO) that a cheaper device will canabalize sales of the Kindle.
But you need a Kindle if you want to buy ebooks from Amazon. I am surprised that authors are fine with that, as e-book buyers that have another device will not shop at Amazon. So IMHO, what Amazon should do is sell any type of e-book and market the Kindle as the one device that has permanent access to the shop etc. etc. so people can choose between no-thrills access to ebooks ohne Kindle OR the full Kindle experience with Kindle..
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