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Old 01-02-2011, 10:47 AM   #241
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Quite. Are we singing from the same hymn sheet now?
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I know that you're not from the US, but this is very ignorant. Can you tell me one aspect of the Patriot act that has impacted American freedom? What do you think will impact more Americans' freedom: state health insurance and other regulations or the Patriot act? I think religious groups have impacted media since about 1776. Freedom isn't just looking at dirty pictures.
Giving the government the ability to secretly subpoena a list of books I borrowed from my local library and bar the library from informing me greatly impacts my First Amendment freedoms.

Health insurance regulations have less impact on my freedom and actually help me enjoy freedom by leveling the playing field when it comes to buying health insurance privately. And the healthcare regulations like those in Massachusetts and now federally that require people to buy health insurance actually enhance my freedom on several levels, not least of which is that those of us who do privately buy health insurance will no longer have to bear alone the heavy costs incurred by the uninsured who run to the hospital emergency room for every paper cut they suffer.
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Old 01-02-2011, 11:12 AM   #243
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What a hideous notion. Not only is Amazon not a monopoly in any way, your argument presupposes that all Kindle owners are completely incompetent with regard to computers and Internet usage despite a great deal of evidence to the contrary. What's next? Require them to accept everything submitted through CreateSpace? No rejections for any reason?

I may not agree with Amazon's choices, but I'll support any company's right to make the wrong move. If their decisions are so far off the mark, competition will fill the void and eliminate whatever monopolistic position you feel they hold. Problem solved.
This is how Amazon markets the Kindle:

"Kindle is ready to use right out of the box - no setup, no software to install, no computer required."

"With fast, free wireless delivery, you can start reading books in less than 60 seconds. No computer required."

"Travel the globe and still get books in under 60 seconds with wireless coverage in over 100 countries and territories"

So how are all these competitors who are going to rush forward to sell books that Amazon bans (on a whim) going to get their ebook stores on the Kindle's menu so that the people the Kindle is marketed at will be able to read them?
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Old 01-02-2011, 11:17 AM   #244
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it does not take a mental giant to be able to figure out that books are available other places than Amazon
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Old 01-02-2011, 12:12 PM   #245
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it does not take a mental giant to be able to figure out that books are available other places than Amazon
Any book banned by Amazon is likely to have more links to pirate copies than links to copies for people to buy. Even books that haven't been banned by Amazon have a fairly even mix of search results.
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Old 01-02-2011, 01:13 PM   #246
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Giving the government the ability to secretly subpoena a list of books I borrowed from my local library and bar the library from informing me greatly impacts my First Amendment freedoms.

Health insurance regulations have less impact on my freedom and actually help me enjoy freedom by leveling the playing field when it comes to buying health insurance privately. And the healthcare regulations like those in Massachusetts and now federally that require people to buy health insurance actually enhance my freedom on several levels, not least of which is that those of us who do privately buy health insurance will no longer have to bear alone the heavy costs incurred by the uninsured who run to the hospital emergency room for every paper cut they suffer.
OK. You thnk it's OK to force people to buy something, but that it's wrong to allow the FBI to investigate terrorism. What about going through somebody's records to see if they have health insurance?
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Old 01-02-2011, 01:20 PM   #247
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Any book banned by Amazon is likely to have more links to pirate copies than links to copies for people to buy. Even books that haven't been banned by Amazon have a fairly even mix of search results.
yeah, and? no one is denying people's ability to acquire the stuff. Amazon has just said they are disinclined to provide it. you can't get any Harry Potter ebooks from Amazon either
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Old 01-02-2011, 01:31 PM   #248
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yeah, and? no one is denying people's ability to acquire the stuff. Amazon has just said they are disinclined to provide it. you can't get any Harry Potter ebooks from Amazon either
That I can understand. Everyone knows Harry Potter is a Devil worshiper!
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Old 01-02-2011, 01:35 PM   #249
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I can't believe they carry the PRINT books!
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Old 01-02-2011, 01:44 PM   #250
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I can't believe they carry the PRINT books!
Actually, I believe it's because the author has a thing about e-books. They aren't found in any electronic format from any outlet.
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If you want to buy a book with "Rape" in the title, just go down to Wal-Mart and buy a paper copy.

Oh, wait, Wal-Mart "censors" those, too? Why don't you start a thread complaining about them?
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It's not about wanting to buy a book with Rape in the title. It's about Amazon's unfair practice of singling out certain types of books for special treatment and not other similar books.

btw: There's no need for a separate thread on Wal-mart, their discrimination against women and minorities, and their censorship of media, is well documented.
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Actually, I believe it's because the author has a thing about e-books. They aren't found in any electronic format from any outlet.
I know, I was referring to the carrying of books with Witchcraft! for kids!

I'm outraged, they should be banned!
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I'm certain the author signed something giving Amazon the right to decide to pull his content. I'm sure he didn't even read it - do you read agreements that you cannot change? I am a lawyer, and I don't -I make sure the mortgage has the right amount and terms, but the rest is nonnegotiable. If I want the $$, I have to sign as is.
I've worked as an independent contractor in the past. So, yes, when it has to do with my livelihood, I read every page. Luckily my last employment contract was only a few pages long, and in a nutshell gave the company the right to terminate my contract at any time with a specified number of days notice. It also gave me the right to terminate at any time with the specified number of days notice. Period. Nothing in the contract enumerating valid reasons for termination. Despite it being vague regarding termination of services, and despite there being nothing I could do to change it, you can bet I still read it word for word. It would have been stupid of me to not to have read it. It doesn't mean I didn't sign the contract or wouldn't complain about having my services terminated for no good reason. But that still does not change the fact that the contract gave the company the right to terminate my services at any time, without good reason. I signed it knowing full well the company could terminate my contract the next day, if they chose. ETA: I might not like it, I might complain about, but I wouldn't call for a boycott.
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yeah, and? no one is denying people's ability to acquire the stuff. Amazon has just said they are disinclined to provide it. you can't get any Harry Potter ebooks from Amazon either
So any writer whose ebook is burned by Amazon can't simply sell it somewhere else instead, like people keep claiming.
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