Hands-on with the iRex iLiad - Page 16

drachasor · 05-23-2006, 11:01 PM

Hmm, seems better to wait until September before deciding what to get. Irex will have ironed out its issues by then if they are ever going to provide timely service. Additionally information on other readers besides the current three might pop up. Frankly, the Iliad is the only one that really interests me. If I am going to have a ebook reader then I am going to want to jot notes down on it. The Iliad is the best interface for that, and the Hanlin is a very distance second-place (Sony isn't even in the running).

The Iliad has been getting very disappointing of late. *sigh*

Maybe it is best to just wait for the next generation of readers...or wait and see if a number of OEMs start picking up the eink technology now that the displays are being more widely offered.

ali · 05-24-2006, 02:19 AM

Henrycat:

In another thread, Rechard reports that the device needs 14 seconds to load a PDF, and 3 seconds to turn a page. (Also, that it crashes all the time). Would you agree or disagree with these times?

haasiesoft · 05-24-2006, 02:39 AM

maybe a problem for irex ;

look at the product flyer on their homepage

" ... The ER 0100 is a very low power mobile device .... The operation time of the rechargeable battery is more than a week without recharging, based on an average use of three hours reading a day ..."

Andreas

CommanderROR · 05-24-2006, 02:58 AM

@Henrycat

did iRex give you any information on when the "complete" OS should arrive, and when the .txt support (that is also mentioned in the product flyer) will finally be implemented? I always thought .txt support was the easiest thing to do, because even early DOS readers could handle it quite well and the most basic ebooks usually come in that format...
I really hope this is not going to mean that the Iliad will come out late and crippled because then I would have to go back to reading paper books after I had got used to reading ebooks on my PDA...

Henrycat · 05-24-2006, 05:37 AM

Answers

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammykrupa

I think we are all looking forward to the video really (-:

Will have to wait until i have some free time on my hands -_-'

Quote:

Do all readers support annotations, just to different levels? Can PDFs be annotated?

How do you erase annotations? Do you use the other side of the pen?

I think i have said it before, but right now no reader has support for annotation.

I can try it in the BMP viewer, but not on html and pdf.

I has just been delayed until the OS and Viewers are working ok.

About erasing, that way was what i was told, but i can't be certain

Quote:

Can you download files from your PC over wireless?

Not until the end of the year, because they saw the users were requesting it they have already decided to work on it, but only later this year.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riocaz

Welcome back Henrycat! Thanks for the updates.

I'm a little concerned that there is still no support for txt files. But thats a minor thing (and mainly my concern because my Zaurus does it so badly) as I'm sure someone will develop one of their own (again someone did for the zaurus and unlike Sharp's one it actually works with files over 100k).

But the power management still isn't finished? Thats a biggie. One of the main selling points (for me) is the idea that I won't have to recharge it every day or so (like my PDA).

I was told last week they were preparing another update, maybe this time there will be bigger changes. Since january there have been 23 updates so i can say they are working on it.

If only the companies making the viewers would hurry it up

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammykrupa

Henrique,
One more question if you don't mind!

1. Do you think they will make the end-of-May launch date for the iLiad?

Don't see why not. I was told they had units. I think they were just waiting for when the device was working ok. That and the agreements with the ecommerce agencies for the site.

Quote:

Originally Posted by haasiesoft

welcome back henrycat :-)

is is possible to print the annotation ?

or if is possible to fill out a "blank" pdf - file e.g. pre-printed form and print it or save it on a pc ?

Andreas

If the annotation is saved separately you just have to take the file and print it. Or print from the device if they add that capability.

You should be able to write on anything, the main doubt is if the device will recognize the text or just create an image.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tribble

@Henrycat: From which medium are you reading? Do you know if and how big the differences in power consumption are, if reading from CF, SD, USB or internal flash ?
And how many pages do you read per hour?

I read mainly from the CF from my camera. I was told it does consume more power but it's hard to be precise without power management working ok...

Pages per hour would depend:
Text - see one of my PDFS . I really have no definite idea, but maybe around 50-60 secs per page.
Don't know it that's a lot or little, just consider the page size and text amount on the pdf.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azania

Might the WIFI or the touch screen function be turned on? I read somewhere that whenever the stylus is removed from it's resting place the touch screen switches on? Or has the battery been badly charged, is it a production spec battery? Has the power output to the screen been increased in order to make page turns faster?

Wait! Has the backlight been left on?

I'll take it with 4 hours battery life because if I have to wait more I might go have a look at those new MacBooks. Only kidding...

I know it the previous OS versions the device had everything on, don't know it they have fixed some of that. have to send an email and see if they answer. Lately they have been very busy...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ali

Henrycat:

In another thread, Rechard reports that the device needs 14 seconds to load a PDF, and 3 seconds to turn a page. (Also, that it crashes all the time). Would you agree or disagree with these times?

I have answered this in the thread just go take a look

Quote:

Originally Posted by CommanderROR

@Henrycat

did iRex give you any information on when the "complete" OS should arrive, and when the .txt support (that is also mentioned in the product flyer) will finally be implemented? I always thought .txt support was the easiest thing to do, because even early DOS readers could handle it quite well and the most basic ebooks usually come in that format...
I really hope this is not going to mean that the Iliad will come out late and crippled because then I would have to go back to reading paper books after I had got used to reading ebooks on my PDA...

No idea, but will try to know more. I have to say that if you read in txt just convert it to pdf and no problem.

Riocaz · 05-24-2006, 07:18 AM

Doesn't it read html? Surely it's faster just to convert to that. :-)

Henrycat · 05-24-2006, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riocaz

Doesn't it read html? Surely it's faster just to convert to that. :-)

Actually that's what i did with some txt in a previous post.

i just renamed them from .txt to .htm

Azania · 05-24-2006, 07:47 AM

@Henrycat, thanks for the reply. If everything, including the WIFI, is switched on it would definately make a big dent in the power consumption. If I remember correctly I get roughly double the battery life on my laptop when the WIFI is switched off...

tribble · 05-25-2006, 03:09 AM

@Henrycat: Thanks for the info.
Can you try to get information on which memoryslot uses the least power? CF or SD? Then i can get the apropriate memorycard

And if it uses much less power if you use the internal flash? (Then i would copy my current books to the internal flash) I guess USB is only an option for short reading periods.
Can you copy files from USB, CF or SD to the internal flash?

Stuart Young · 05-25-2006, 05:54 AM

Does anyone know what the RSS capabilities of this device are? e.g. can you sych a web.

Henrycat · 05-25-2006, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onceways

Does anyone know what the RSS capabilities of this device are? e.g. can you sych a web.

No Rss now, unless you use the pc to capture and then transfer to the device.

Henrycat · 05-25-2006, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tribble

@Henrycat: Thanks for the info.
Can you try to get information on which memoryslot uses the least power? CF or SD? Then i can get the apropriate memorycard

And if it uses much less power if you use the internal flash? (Then i would copy my current books to the internal flash) I guess USB is only an option for short reading periods.
Can you copy files from USB, CF or SD to the internal flash?

Looking on it, will update if i find something...

Just got some feeback:

- Next OS version is supposed to give you 10 hours of battery. They mention three hours for the version i have but it has lasted more than that so...

- To erase annotations you use a button on the pen, not the back.

- TXT will be handled by the htm viewer. They just forgot to associate the extension with the viewer

Can't give any comment on release date but...

pitcher23 · 05-25-2006, 07:39 AM

"Can't give any comment on release date but..."

Hmmm. Can't as in you don't know? Or can't as in you are not allowed? The suspense is killing me.

CommanderROR · 05-25-2006, 07:48 AM

Thanks for your input Henrycat!

Now i'm not going to sxplode...but WTH!!! The next OS will give you 10 hours battery-life??? What is that supposed to mean??? even the 21 hours they promise in their Data-sheet is pretty meagre...so what are they doing messing around with not even half that a month after "release-time"???
I'm just so incredibly angry right now...I don't need a book I have to reload every 3 days...

ok...deep calming breath...

do you have any Info on what kind of usage leads to those 10 hours? I'm planning on reading only (PDF or .txt/htm, I don't care, I can convert the books i'd like to take along) and not using the stylus, WiFi or anything...so maybe I have achance of actually reading riverworld to the end without recharging...?

About the "release date thing"...does the "but" at the end of your sentence signify something like "but chekc the homepage in 5 minutes and the webshop will be online"
...:-)

TaKir · 05-25-2006, 08:02 AM

I suspect Henrycat is a beta-tester, or something like that, and is working for Irex tech., since he got his Iliad

05-24-2006, 02:39 AM	#228
haasiesoft Enthusiast Posts: 36 Karma: 13 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany - Wuppertal Device: Iliad	maybe a problem for irex ; look at the product flyer on their homepage " ... The ER 0100 is a very low power mobile device .... The operation time of the rechargeable battery is more than a week without recharging, based on an average use of three hours reading a day ..." Andreas Last edited by haasiesoft; 05-24-2006 at 02:47 AM.

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05-23-2006, 11:01 PM	#226
drachasor Connoisseur Posts: 56 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2006	Hmm, seems better to wait until September before deciding what to get. Irex will have ironed out its issues by then if they are ever going to provide timely service. Additionally information on other readers besides the current three might pop up. Frankly, the Iliad is the only one that really interests me. If I am going to have a ebook reader then I am going to want to jot notes down on it. The Iliad is the best interface for that, and the Hanlin is a very distance second-place (Sony isn't even in the running). The Iliad has been getting very disappointing of late. sigh Maybe it is best to just wait for the next generation of readers...or wait and see if a number of OEMs start picking up the eink technology now that the displays are being more widely offered.

05-24-2006, 02:19 AM	#227
ali Addict Posts: 302 Karma: 116 Join Date: May 2006 Device: Iliad, dude!	Henrycat: In another thread, Rechard reports that the device needs 14 seconds to load a PDF, and 3 seconds to turn a page. (Also, that it crashes all the time). Would you agree or disagree with these times?

05-24-2006, 02:58 AM	#229
CommanderROR eink fanatic Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2	@Henrycat did iRex give you any information on when the "complete" OS should arrive, and when the .txt support (that is also mentioned in the product flyer) will finally be implemented? I always thought .txt support was the easiest thing to do, because even early DOS readers could handle it quite well and the most basic ebooks usually come in that format... I really hope this is not going to mean that the Iliad will come out late and crippled because then I would have to go back to reading paper books after I had got used to reading ebooks on my PDA...

05-24-2006, 07:18 AM	#231
Riocaz Fulfilled but not by iRex Posts: 932 Karma: 286846 Join Date: May 2006 Location: London Device: Far too many	Doesn't it read html? Surely it's faster just to convert to that. :-)

05-24-2006, 07:47 AM	#233
Azania Member Posts: 18 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2006 Device: Palm E2; Nokia 770	@Henrycat, thanks for the reply. If everything, including the WIFI, is switched on it would definately make a big dent in the power consumption. If I remember correctly I get roughly double the battery life on my laptop when the WIFI is switched off...

05-25-2006, 03:09 AM	#234
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	@Henrycat: Thanks for the info. Can you try to get information on which memoryslot uses the least power? CF or SD? Then i can get the apropriate memorycard And if it uses much less power if you use the internal flash? (Then i would copy my current books to the internal flash) I guess USB is only an option for short reading periods. Can you copy files from USB, CF or SD to the internal flash?

05-25-2006, 05:54 AM	#235
Stuart Young MobileRead Editor Posts: 195 Karma: 75 Join Date: May 2006 Location: London Device: e61i / Eee PC / PRS-505	Does anyone know what the RSS capabilities of this device are? e.g. can you sych a web.

05-25-2006, 07:39 AM	#238
pitcher23 Zealot Posts: 138 Karma: 12 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York USA	"Can't give any comment on release date but..." Hmmm. Can't as in you don't know? Or can't as in you are not allowed? The suspense is killing me.

05-25-2006, 07:48 AM	#239
CommanderROR eink fanatic Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2	Thanks for your input Henrycat! Now i'm not going to sxplode...but WTH!!! The next OS will give you 10 hours battery-life??? What is that supposed to mean??? even the 21 hours they promise in their Data-sheet is pretty meagre...so what are they doing messing around with not even half that a month after "release-time"??? I'm just so incredibly angry right now...I don't need a book I have to reload every 3 days... ok...deep calming breath... do you have any Info on what kind of usage leads to those 10 hours? I'm planning on reading only (PDF or .txt/htm, I don't care, I can convert the books i'd like to take along) and not using the stylus, WiFi or anything...so maybe I have achance of actually reading riverworld to the end without recharging...? About the "release date thing"...does the "but" at the end of your sentence signify something like "but chekc the homepage in 5 minutes and the webshop will be online" ...:-)

05-25-2006, 08:02 AM	#240
TaKir Keine Ursache! )) Posts: 146 Karma: 63 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Almost everywhere Device: Lbook V8 & V3_Vizplex	I suspect Henrycat is a beta-tester, or something like that, and is working for Irex tech., since he got his Iliad

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