Content Lord of the Rings Now Available! KINDLE, EPUB, PDF, LIT, and MOBI - Page 16

sirbruce · 04-23-2009, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by clee

I have the mobi versions but extracting the images out is a pain and from what I've read the epub covers are higher resolution.

Don't know what's difficult; Calibre will pull them right out.

JSWolf · 04-23-2009, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by clee

I have the mobi versions but extracting the images out is a pain and from what I've read the epub covers are higher resolution.

You have a 505 and didn't get the ePub? That's a bit silly (IMHO).

clee · 04-23-2009, 08:50 PM

Eh, I've been using mobi2html and it means going through and inspecting the images. Anyway, I did that, and now that I have a copy of an epub cover, I put the covers up in both formats so you can compare the quality yourself.

http://flickr.com/gp/slashclee/0990C2 - compare the mobipocket version of the Fellowship cover to the epub cover for the trilogy set at the end.

And, yeah, I have a 505, but I don't know how to remove the DRM from epubs (yet).

sirbruce · 04-23-2009, 09:43 PM

The EPUB cover for the Trilogy set is the same as the MOBI cover for the Trilogy set... again I don't see why you needed EPUB covers.

clee · 04-24-2009, 01:12 AM

If it isn't immediately obvious when you look at the mobi covers that they've been downsampled - if that doesn't jump out at you or bother you - then you win! No reason to look for them in a different format.

It seems pretty obvious to me, though, and the epub cover image looks much clearer and sharper. You seriously don't see any difference in the clarity between http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3646/...7f4958f8_o.jpg and http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3579/...a9f7819b_o.jpg ?

sirbruce · 04-24-2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by clee

If it isn't immediately obvious when you look at the mobi covers that they've been downsampled - if that doesn't jump out at you or bother you - then you win! No reason to look for them in a different format.

It seems pretty obvious to me, though, and the epub cover image looks much clearer and sharper. You seriously don't see any difference in the clarity between http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3646/...7f4958f8_o.jpg and http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3579/...a9f7819b_o.jpg ?

The two are not the same image. The first is for the first book; the second if for the trilogy combined. One image is clearly a variation of the other, but as for "downsampling" one image is necessarily smaller than the other to include the border designs and cover text.

JSWolf · 04-24-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sirbruce

The EPUB cover for the Trilogy set is the same as the MOBI cover for the Trilogy set... again I don't see why you needed EPUB covers.

The images are the same. But the resolution is lower on the Mobipocket versions. You can easily see the loss of information compared to the ePub cover of Fellowship.

So for viewing on a Kindle or Sony, the larger cover will definitely look better.

All4Fun · 04-24-2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 13xforever

I've considered to buy ePub version, but since Stanza doesn't support DRMed ePub (Supported formats), I've decided to go for eReader on Fictionwise. This is first book, that Stanza refused to open, but then again, there's not many books out there comparable to LotR size-wise.

If you're comfortable "liberating" DRM from ePub, you could have done that with the purchased epub and that would work with Stanza.

sirbruce · 04-24-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

The images are the same. But the resolution is lower on the Mobipocket versions. You can easily see the loss of information compared to the ePub cover of Fellowship.

Please read my previous post above. The EPUB cover of FELLOWSHIP is not the same as the MOBI cover of TRILOGY. I know it's a similar image and blockier because it's reduced in size, but look at the eye and the flames (hands?) reaching around the top ring; that's a different image, not downsampling.

You'd have to compare to the EPUB cover of TRILOGY.

Shaggy · 04-24-2009, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

Tolkien died in 1973. The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings were published before he died. They will come into the public domain in most countries on 1st January 2044, unless the law is changed before then.

Mickey's copyright is up in 2023, so I'm sure the law will be changed again well before 2044.

13xforever · 04-24-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by All4Fun

If you're comfortable "liberating" DRM from ePub, you could have done that with the purchased epub and that would work with Stanza.

I bought eReader and ePub editions at the same time, but I had some troubles with downloading ePub editions (namely, The Children of Húrin), which were resolved just today.

But thanks for your suggestion anyway.

JSWolf · 04-24-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sirbruce

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

The images are the same. But the resolution is lower on the Mobipocket versions. You can easily see the loss of information compared to the ePub cover of Fellowship.

Please read my previous post above. The EPUB cover of FELLOWSHIP is not the same as the MOBI cover of TRILOGY. I know it's a similar image and blockier because it's reduced in size, but look at the eye and the flames (hands?) reaching around the top ring; that's a different image, not downsampling.

You'd have to compare to the EPUB cover of TRILOGY.

If you read my post again, I did say I compared The Fellowship of the Ring ePub to the Mobipocket version. The ePub version is noticeably better. Not great though. The problem may be the software used to reduce the original image down to size.

clee · 04-24-2009, 08:03 PM

I think it's fairly safe to say that both the epub and mobi versions of the covers were downscaled from the original master; if you check the Flickr set again I've got the covers from the Hobbit and the trilogy up and the epub versions are all consistently clearer and higher-resolution than the mobi versions but still nowhere near perfect.

JSWolf · 04-24-2009, 08:08 PM

What I think is that the software used to reduce The Fellowship of the Ring didn't do a good job reducing. The lines are fine and what's happened is some of the pixels for the lines are broken.

curtw · 04-24-2009, 10:17 PM

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Beth A. Stireman says:
Example of problem....
In the hard copy, from the chapter "Shadow of the Past"
"The Enemy still lacks one thing to give him strength and knowledge to beat down all resistance......"
In the Kindle version....
"The Enemy still lacks one thing to and knowledge to beat down all resistance...."

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

This problem exists in the ePub edition.

other issue discussed

I think this problem may be AZW specific. It does not exist in the ePub. Could be something with the conversion to AZW (my guess).
underlined text not intended to be included in quote--see JSWolfe note below)

The "Shadow of the Past" text deletion also exists in the Mobipocket from Fictionwise. Perhaps it's time to start a discussion in one of the machine-agnostic forums?

04-23-2009, 08:50 PM	#228
clee Member Posts: 13 Karma: 37 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: PRS-505	Eh, I've been using mobi2html and it means going through and inspecting the images. Anyway, I did that, and now that I have a copy of an epub cover, I put the covers up in both formats so you can compare the quality yourself. http://flickr.com/gp/slashclee/0990C2 - compare the mobipocket version of the Fellowship cover to the epub cover for the trilogy set at the end. And, yeah, I have a 505, but I don't know how to remove the DRM from epubs (yet). Last edited by clee; 04-23-2009 at 08:55 PM. Reason: Adding reply to JSWolf

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04-23-2009, 09:43 PM	#229
sirbruce Provocateur Posts: 1,859 Karma: 505847 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Device: Kindle Touch, Kindle 2, Kindle DX, iPhone 3GS	The EPUB cover for the Trilogy set is the same as the MOBI cover for the Trilogy set... again I don't see why you needed EPUB covers.

04-24-2009, 01:12 AM	#230
clee Member Posts: 13 Karma: 37 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: PRS-505	If it isn't immediately obvious when you look at the mobi covers that they've been downsampled - if that doesn't jump out at you or bother you - then you win! No reason to look for them in a different format. It seems pretty obvious to me, though, and the epub cover image looks much clearer and sharper. You seriously don't see any difference in the clarity between http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3646/...7f4958f8_o.jpg and http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3579/...a9f7819b_o.jpg ?

04-24-2009, 08:03 PM	#238
clee Member Posts: 13 Karma: 37 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: PRS-505	I think it's fairly safe to say that both the epub and mobi versions of the covers were downscaled from the original master; if you check the Flickr set again I've got the covers from the Hobbit and the trilogy up and the epub versions are all consistently clearer and higher-resolution than the mobi versions but still nowhere near perfect.

04-24-2009, 08:08 PM	#239
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,796 Karma: 146391129 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	What I think is that the software used to reduce The Fellowship of the Ring didn't do a good job reducing. The lines are fine and what's happened is some of the pixels for the lines are broken.

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