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Old 08-23-2022, 06:50 PM   #226
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I hope this ComfortGaze doesn't make the screen unpleasantly yellowish overall. That would suck. The comfort light already exists for reducing blue light if one needs or wants to, and can be turned off if one doesn't want to.
It looks like the ComfortGaze feature is something E-Ink is working on for their newest color screens — not for the Clara 2E. rtiangha pointed to the source of this confusion (a familiar misinformation source). Sorry I brought it up.
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Old 08-23-2022, 06:51 PM   #227
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That information about ComfortGaze came from eink's blog.

https://blog.eink.com/tech-thats-fas...-more-colorful
Yep. For color screens. Not for the Clara 2E. Sorry for my post.
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Old 08-24-2022, 03:45 AM   #228
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The light on my Libra 2 is not the same as it is on my Aura H2O. The Aura H2O is whiter. So yes, there is a ting of blue light showing. So I do think this new ComfortGaze could be better. The main reason I want to see it is that I want to know how well it works on a non-color eInk screen.
Yeah, sorry, but this is just nonsense...

Again the Libra 2 has ComfortLight. If there is too much blue light in it for your taste, you can take out as much as you like, make it as "white" as you like...
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Old 08-24-2022, 05:00 AM   #229
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Yeah, sorry, but this is just nonsense...

Again the Libra 2 has ComfortLight. If there is too much blue light in it for your taste, you can take out as much as you like, make it as "white" as you like...
I tend to doubt that you can "take out as much as you like" (blue). On the Forma and Clara, mine don't get very "yellow", so I assume there is still some blue.

And it is a shame that the Libra 2 doesn't have Comfortlight Pro.
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Old 08-24-2022, 07:30 AM   #230
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And it is a shame that the Libra 2 doesn't have Comfortlight Pro.
What are you talking about?

-> https://help.kobo.com/hc/en-us/artic...r-Kobo-eReader

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I tend to doubt that you can "take out as much as you like" (blue). On the Forma and Clara, mine don't get very "yellow", so I assume there is still some blue.
Yes, you can take out as much as you like. (Or maybe as much as Kobo lets you.) We have seen lights that could even turn into a deep orange (the Aura One for example).

If Kobo wanted to, they could already let you adjust the light into a dark red color or whatever other color. If they don't want you to do that, ComfortGaze won't make any difference.

Also, what is your argument?

So you also believe, that less blue light somehow makes the light more white, like JSWolf thinks? Alhough we already have a technology, that lets you adjust the color temperatur even beyond white into yellow / orange, etc.? (And even more, if the manufacturer wanted to.)
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Old 08-24-2022, 08:47 AM   #231
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Again the Libra 2 has ComfortLight. ...
So which does it have, first you say Comfortlight (multiple times), then you link to something that says Comfortlight Pro?

The secret to my reply is in the emoticon.

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Yes, you can take out as much as you like. (Or maybe as much as Kobo lets you.) ...
To me, there may be a difference to what Kobo allows and what I might like. YMMV.


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Also, what is your argument?
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Kobo introduced "ComfortLight" in 2016 with the Aura One. And today you can adjust the color of the front light on most readers, take out as much blue light and make it as much orange/yellow/red as you like...
I don't know about "most" readers, but I don't believe it is true today for Kobo's ereaders (the bolded part).

To the best of my knowledge, the only Kobo that might do what you say is the Kobo Aura One, which isn't one of "todays" ereaders; I believe it had RGB LEDs that you could set through developer mode.

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... So you also believe, that less blue light somehow makes the light more white, like JSWolf thinks? ...
Did I say anything about white? I put in "(blue)" in my post.

Maybe we can agree that we have different criteria for removing blue light "as much as you like"?
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So which does it have, first you say Comfortlight (multiple times), then you link to something that says Comfortlight Pro?

The secret to my reply is in the emoticon. [...]
So you are just pointing out slight inaccuracies in my posts, instead of adding anything to this discussion?

Ah, so the correct terminology is "ComfortLight Pro" not just "ComfortLight". Got it. Good thing you caught this. Must have confused a lot of people...

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To me, there may be a difference to what Kobo allows and what I might like. YMMV.

I disagree with this post: [...]

Maybe we can agree that we have different criteria for removing blue light "as much as you like"?
You make no effort to understand what we are discussing here, so I am not going to make an effort to explain it to you again.
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Just as an aside for people who may still be confused, ComfortLight debuted on the Kobo Glo in 2012 and is basically just a glorified frontlight. ComfortLight Pro is the one that can change color temperature and debuted on 2016's Aura One, and according to the Dutch listing, is what is set to appear on the Clara 2E. ComfortGaze is a technology linked to E-Ink's color screens, and the only reason why the Internet thinks it's linked to the Clara 2E at the moment is because that badereader guy thinks it is.
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Old 08-24-2022, 02:02 PM   #234
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After reading the Google translation of the Dutch product listing, I think this part:

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Dankzij de ingebouwde blauwlichtreductie kun je 's avonds lezen zonder dat dit ten koste gaat van je nachtrust.
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Built-in blue light reduction lets you read at night without compromising your sleep.
is why that badereader guy thinks it has ComfortGaze because it sounds similar.

But I think that ComfortLight Pro claims to do the same, which is why I think that guy is misleading everyone yet again with another misinterpretation.

Regardless, apparently review samples and embargos have already gone out at least a couple of weeks ago, so I suppose we'll find out what the final specs are one way or another really soon.
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We'll only know for sure what type of front light the 2e will have once it's released.
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Well, while we're killing time, I really do think there'll be a Deep Ocean Blue version of the reader, mainly because of the Part Number.

Consider the part number of the white Libra 2 is N418-KU-WH-K-EP while the black one is N418-KU-BK-K-EP. The old Libra H2O follows the same convention, with the white one being N873-KU-WH-K-EP and the black one being N873-KU-BK-K-EP. Finally, the Clara HD has N249-KU-BK-K-EP and it only came in black.

Meanwhile, the Dutch site has the Kobo Clara 2E Deep Ocean Blue E-reader as N506-KU-OB-K-EP and I think the OB stands for Ocean Blue. I haven't been able to find anything on Google yet, but if things follow convention, I assume the black version will be N506-KU-BK-K-EP just like the other black models.
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Well, while we're killing time, I really do think there'll be a Deep Ocean Blue version of the reader, mainly because of the Part Number.

Consider the part number of the white Libra 2 is N418-KU-WH-K-EP while the black one is N418-KU-BK-K-EP. The old Libra H2O follows the same convention, with the white one being N873-KU-WH-K-EP and the black one being N873-KU-BK-K-EP. Finally, the Clara HD has N249-KU-BK-K-EP and it only came in black.

Meanwhile, the Dutch site has the Kobo Clara 2E Deep Ocean Blue E-reader as N506-KU-OB-K-EP and I think the OB stands for Ocean Blue. I haven't been able to find anything on Google yet, but if things follow convention, I assume the black version will be N506-KU-BK-K-EP just like the other black models.
If the 2e comes in blue and it's only the back that's blue, then that is useless as a cover will cover the color.
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Old 08-24-2022, 09:26 PM   #238
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If the 2e comes in blue and it's only the back that's blue, then that is useless as a cover will cover the color.
All speculation. I've seen specifications (posted in this thread) showing that the Clara 2E would be released in Black and Deep Ocean Blue. And, although there have been some Kobo models with colored backs (like the Kobo Mini), that does not mean the Clara 2E would be the same. The only picture I've found that shows this Deep Ocean Blue is for a cover that looks to completely cover the bezel of the Clara 2E and that color is definitely dark ("ocean") blue. I tend to think there will be a dark blue Clara 2E (maybe a special edition) because they're pushing this as renewable plastic that can be "returned to the ocean." There's no reason why a Kobo couldn't be made in blue.

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For what it's worth, BadE (using yet another new storefront) is advertising the Clara 2E for delivery by September 13th. In the blurb he's still pushing the ComfortGaze info but admitting that he doesn't have all the specs. I've seen these stated delivery dates slip by a lot on his sites in the past.
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A gunmetal grey color would be lovely on an ereader.

The Ocean blue color is very similar to my likebook p78 color
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