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Old 01-10-2010, 09:05 AM   #211
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Speaking of replaceable batteries. I don't think Apple would be silly enough to make a tablet without a user replaceable battery. It would cut down on sales. I know I for one would not buy anyone tablet if the battery was fixed. Besides, by having a user replaceable battery, we could have spares for when needed.
Well, I though that about the iPhone and was wrong...
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You have information of what variety of OS they will be using
on this rumoured device? Will it be OS X iPhone or Mac OS X? Going from the above statement, you know it to be the former?

As previously indicated, I am not interested in what the majority want. I am interested in what I want. If something significant is in that 5%, I will be disappointed and possibly not interested.

Which is to say, I am unsure what you're defending here, and why you think it needs defense.



Right, that's all well and good, but I want to, for example, use Firefox. I realise there are alternatives (I have an iPhone. I have an iPod Touch. FWIW I have an iMac). The alternatives are satisfactory to me on the iPhone. They would not be so satisfying to me on the rumoured tablet.

I get the feeling you are defending Apple against my wants. You also appear to be diminishing my wants. I don't know why. I don't know how you could determine their degree of importance to me. They are not criticisms. They are what I desire in the product. If Apple don't meet my desires, my desires are as none to blame as Apple are for not meeting them.




...but that "little" may be enough. I am, as mentioned, aware from experience of the possibly subjective limitations of the iPhone OS compared to the Mac OS. I want the latter. I hope Apple provide it to me. If they don't, they don't. I do not and have not and will not criticise them for it. My desires simply do not coincide with their assumed market.

Can you accept this personal desire without feeling any need to diminish it or defend Apple?

As I said, I buy products to satisfy me. To lightly, but I think empathetically, take dawnfalcon out of context, "it is a requirement I have".

I like the Apple products I have (and The Loved One also likes his Macbook and iPhone). I will likely buy more Apple products. I will likely buy the rumoured tablet if it appears. I don't like Apple...I don't feel anything for them (or any company) at all. For me, it's just products against my wants, which was the OP thread question I was trying to answer, for myself alone.

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No inside info on the OS obviously, that was my conclusion based on what I typed earlier.

You see I am interested in what the majority want because Apple will be interested in what the majority want so trying to work out what the majority wants aids speculation about what the device will be and what it runs.

Im not defending anything im trying to look at it objectively and your individual wants arent the typical or mass market wants, so whilst 100% valid for you are not that valid when looking at what Apple will be taking into account, IMO of course.

Im not trying to diminish their importance to you but make you realise the importance to other people. If the majority can get on the web they wont care if that FF,Chrome or Safari.

Apologies if it came across that I think you are wrong in your personal choices it was more me trying to point out that I dont think those are factors that will influence the Tablet.

The only thing I am trying to defend or make clear is a perceived belief by some people that if something isnt open then its no good. that isnt true, it may be no good for them.
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Old 01-10-2010, 11:15 AM   #213
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I don't think Apple would be silly enough to make a tablet without a user replaceable battery. It would cut down on sales.
Really? I'd be amazed if the mythical slate/tablet (stablet?) had a user-replaceable battery - every other current portable Apple device (laptops, phones and iPods) have non-user-replaceable batteries and I don't see it cutting down on sales. Again, I just don't think this is much of an issue for most people... <shrug>

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I don't think Apple would be silly enough to make a tablet without a user replaceable battery.
How many portable devices does Apple sell now with user replaceable batteries? I believe the answer to that is zero. That includes their iPhone, iPod line, and their educational, consumer, and professional notebooks.
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Old 01-10-2010, 03:02 PM   #215
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Speaking of replaceable batteries. I don't think Apple would be silly enough to make a tablet without a user replaceable battery. It would cut down on sales.
Clearly with 17k posts and 20k karma, you are still wrong.
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Old 01-10-2010, 03:09 PM   #216
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I have some vague news about that iTablet rumo(u)r.

First, the name iTablet has been secured by a lawfirm that caters to aPple.
Second, the price would be around $800 for a wifi type device and $1000 for one with onboard phone. And I guess that if memory is flashbased there will be more outrageous gouging depending on the quantity one requires. We're used to this I guess.


Personally I wish this device to be a cross between a Touch and a new type of computer. A virtual keyboard "a la touch" could be made bigger on this 10" device than on the iPod.



I would like to thank those who kept their calm enough as to bring the thread back on track; whatever side you are on.
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Old 01-10-2010, 03:50 PM   #217
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I don't see it cutting down on sales.
It's cost them at least 5000 (Company with Blackberries decided against swapping on that particular issue). And it's taken them outside what I'd consider purchasing.

You can argue that it's not a significant loss, but they have lost sales.
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There are actually design reasons for not having user replaceable batteries in some cases (not all and Apple is a shocker in some regards). Providing a slot for the user to change batteries around takes space in the case.

Apple love making their gear as slim as possible. So for them, the additional hole in the case and the room required isn't acceptable. That's why their 17" macbooks get good battery life (the battery is huge and doesn't have to be removable). You can get battery packs for iPhones, but yes it's a pain.
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Well, save for my Mp3 player, i can't think of a device I own where the battery can't be changed.
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I'm intrigued and looking forward to seeing what Apple unveils, but I know Apple is going to make this device too expensive for me to consider. If it's $500 or less I'd consider it, but at the $1,000 the rumors have been claiming, I'd be better off just purchasing a new MacBook Pro.
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I'm intrigued and looking forward to seeing what Apple unveils, but I know Apple is going to make this device too expensive for me to consider. If it's $500 or less I'd consider it, but at the $1,000 the rumors have been claiming, I'd be better off just purchasing a new MacBook Pro.
Given that the current 64GB iPod Touch costs $400, I think that the probability of a tablet costing under $500 is virtually zero.
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It'll be yet another Apple product I'll be proud to not purchase most likely.
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It's cost them at least 5000 (Company with Blackberries decided against swapping on that particular issue). And it's taken them outside what I'd consider purchasing.

You can argue that it's not a significant loss, but they have lost sales.
Fair enough and thanks for pointing that out; I was referring to the overall trend though, and I probably didn't make that clear...

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Given that the current 64GB iPod Touch costs $400, I think that the probability of a tablet costing under $500 is virtually zero.
Agreed im expecting at least $800.
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