Mobipocket output - Page 15

chorpler · 07-06-2009, 11:52 PM

Does calibre always add an <mbp:pagebreak/> tag after an horizontal line tag? Both oeb2mobi and ebook-convert seem to add the <mbp:pagebreak/> tag after every <hr> or <hr /> tag in the source file, even when the CSS says:

hr { page-break-after: avoid; }

Is there a way to control this behavior?

GeoffC · 07-07-2009, 10:44 AM

sorry if this has been covered elsewhere, but i'm still trying to get to grips with book generation.

book file written manually in xhtml editor (SciTE).
result tested to almost perfection in Mozilla, one bug in ie....But ...
on conversion through Calibre to Mobi output ....

a) I've generated my own TOC (with links) on page 1 - is it possible to disable the auto-generated TOC [ I guess not from what I've read ].
b) horizontal lines separating sections have been grouped at the foot of the book on conversion!
c) copyright symbol converts to S (or similar).

edit : comparing output using Mobi Creator ...
horizontal lines ignored totally.
ignores <pre></pre> tags that calibre accepts.

any thoughts on solutions/where I am in error ?

kovidgoyal · 07-07-2009, 12:14 PM

a) It will be possible to suppress the auto generated TOC in the next beta
b) llasram will have to help you with that
c) How are you specifying the symbol in the source HTML?

GeoffC · 07-07-2009, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

a) It will be possible to suppress the auto generated TOC in the next beta
b) llasram will have to help you with that
c) How are you specifying the symbol in the source HTML?

sorry for the delay in replying -
c) the copyright symbol is one that originated from Coffeecup editor ...
(I transferred to Scite because the coffeecup ouput was complicated and it kept 'putting' its own version over mine ....)

kovidgoyal · 07-07-2009, 04:08 PM

can you locate the symbol in the source html file generated by coffeecup and paste it here (or just post an extract from the file containing the section that has the symbol as a attachment)

chorpler · 07-07-2009, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeoffC

sorry for the delay in replying -
c) the copyright symbol is one that originated from Coffeecup editor ...
(I transferred to Scite because the coffeecup ouput was complicated and it kept 'putting' its own version over mine ....)

Try using © instead of the original copyright symbol, in the HTML file. That will generate the proper symbol in Mobipocket.

chorpler · 07-07-2009, 07:04 PM

Hmm, neither 0.5.14's oeb2mobi nor 0.6.0b10's ebook-convert seem to properly scale images from source HTML files, with either the deprecated "width" attribute or using CSS, as in:

<img style='width: 200px' ...>

mobigen will respect the "width" attribute, but not the CSS; it seems to just stick the "width" attribute and value in the Mobipocket markup directly. But calibre seems to actually take the width of the image, translate it into "em" units, and put that value in for the "width" attribute in the corresponding <img> tag in the Mobipocket markup.

kovidgoyal · 07-07-2009, 07:10 PM

ebook-convert won't scale the images. But it should translate the width or css width to a Mobipocket width attribute. I know it does this for EPUB, perhaps llasram can tell us why it doesn't do this for MOBI?

chorpler · 07-07-2009, 07:13 PM

Er, yeah, I didn't mean scale as in physically resize, I just meant translate the width settting. I definitely don't want it to rescale the actual image before storing it in the file; that's the main problem with mobigen, that it forces you to rescale big images.

GeoffC · 07-08-2009, 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chorpler

Try using © instead of the original copyright symbol, in the HTML file. That will generate the proper symbol in Mobipocket.

interesting - I used &copy in the original write in coffeecup and the auto system changed it to the symbol © ; but I'll put that back into the code and see if calibre handles it...

GeoffC · 07-08-2009, 06:57 AM

mmm : &copy is recognised by mobicreator as copyright symbol.
Calibre treats as text....

GeoffC · 07-08-2009, 09:12 AM

It looks as though calibre thinks my toc is a 'front page', if I add a front page during the build process my toc is ignored.

if it would help Kovid, I attach the file I am using .... (changed to a .txt in order to upload).

kovidgoyal · 07-08-2009, 11:03 AM

GeoffC · 07-08-2009, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

ah !

ie and firefox be damned .... !!!

thanks Kovid

edit : Yep - Calibre recognises it .... Thanks .....
looks like I'll have to re-code for the other issues ...

itimpi · 07-08-2009, 11:50 PM

The XHTML/HTML standards specify the trailing semi-colon for all character entities even if certain browsers handle it being missing.

07-07-2009, 10:44 AM	#212
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,599 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	sorry if this has been covered elsewhere, but i'm still trying to get to grips with book generation. book file written manually in xhtml editor (SciTE). result tested to almost perfection in Mozilla, one bug in ie....But ... on conversion through Calibre to Mobi output .... a) I've generated my own TOC (with links) on page 1 - is it possible to disable the auto-generated TOC [ I guess not from what I've read ]. b) horizontal lines separating sections have been grouped at the foot of the book on conversion! c) copyright symbol converts to S (or similar). edit : comparing output using Mobi Creator ... horizontal lines ignored totally. ignores <pre></pre> tags that calibre accepts. any thoughts on solutions/where I am in error ? Last edited by GeoffC; 07-07-2009 at 10:47 AM.

07-08-2009, 11:03 AM	#223
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,376 Karma: 27230406 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	The correct form for the entity is © (note the trailing semi-colon)

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07-06-2009, 11:52 PM	#211
chorpler Zealot Posts: 128 Karma: 278 Join Date: Jun 2008 Device: Kindle; PRS-500; MobiPocket on Windows Mobile	Does calibre always add an <mbp:pagebreak/> tag after an horizontal line tag? Both oeb2mobi and ebook-convert seem to add the <mbp:pagebreak/> tag after every <hr> or <hr /> tag in the source file, even when the CSS says: hr { page-break-after: avoid; } Is there a way to control this behavior?

07-07-2009, 12:14 PM	#213
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,376 Karma: 27230406 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	a) It will be possible to suppress the auto generated TOC in the next beta b) llasram will have to help you with that c) How are you specifying the symbol in the source HTML?

07-07-2009, 04:08 PM	#215
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,376 Karma: 27230406 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	can you locate the symbol in the source html file generated by coffeecup and paste it here (or just post an extract from the file containing the section that has the symbol as a attachment)

07-07-2009, 07:04 PM	#217
chorpler Zealot Posts: 128 Karma: 278 Join Date: Jun 2008 Device: Kindle; PRS-500; MobiPocket on Windows Mobile	Hmm, neither 0.5.14's oeb2mobi nor 0.6.0b10's ebook-convert seem to properly scale images from source HTML files, with either the deprecated "width" attribute or using CSS, as in: <img style='width: 200px' ...> mobigen will respect the "width" attribute, but not the CSS; it seems to just stick the "width" attribute and value in the Mobipocket markup directly. But calibre seems to actually take the width of the image, translate it into "em" units, and put that value in for the "width" attribute in the corresponding <img> tag in the Mobipocket markup.

07-07-2009, 07:10 PM	#218
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,376 Karma: 27230406 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	ebook-convert won't scale the images. But it should translate the width or css width to a Mobipocket width attribute. I know it does this for EPUB, perhaps llasram can tell us why it doesn't do this for MOBI?

07-07-2009, 07:13 PM	#219
chorpler Zealot Posts: 128 Karma: 278 Join Date: Jun 2008 Device: Kindle; PRS-500; MobiPocket on Windows Mobile	Er, yeah, I didn't mean scale as in physically resize, I just meant translate the width settting. I definitely don't want it to rescale the actual image before storing it in the file; that's the main problem with mobigen, that it forces you to rescale big images.

07-08-2009, 06:57 AM	#221
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,599 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	mmm : &copy is recognised by mobicreator as copyright symbol. Calibre treats as text....

07-08-2009, 11:50 PM	#225
itimpi Wizard Posts: 4,553 Karma: 950151 Join Date: Nov 2008 Device: Sony PRS-950, iphone/ipad (Marvin/iBooks/QuickReader)	The XHTML/HTML standards specify the trailing semi-colon for all character entities even if certain browsers handle it being missing.

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