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Old 09-26-2014, 03:40 PM   #211
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I guess he simply does not like his phones. Nobody does that "for scientific reasons" - pretty sure the financial loss by deliberately breaking the phones is made up by some other financial compensation. At least nobody in the right state of mind does it unscientifically on youtube.
Yesterday I have seen and played with both the iPhone 6 and 6+ in the Verizon store. Holding the 6+ in hand and it's design did not impress me too much. To get the phone that thin is some really nice engineering feat. I wonder though if the compromises to get there are a bit much. The part where the 6+ bent in the video (by the buttons) really does look super flimsy up close and personal. The golden color does look nice though and encourages to not use a cover which you should use with it.
I have a white/gold iPhone. I have a clear cover.
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Old 09-26-2014, 03:57 PM   #212
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I've no info, but my guess would be yes - they've replaced a cracked iPad no charge for me before. Though they did check that it was in a case at the time.
How did they check that?
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Old 09-26-2014, 03:59 PM   #213
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Did you watch the video? He also tried to bend his Samsung. See...I can roll my eyes, too

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and I'm 100% sure he used the same type of force to bend the phone he "liked" vs the one he didn't like to prove his case.
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Old 09-26-2014, 04:34 PM   #214
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Heh, the bending in the video was faked.

http://www.businessinsider.com/bendg...phone-6-2014-9

33 million views later, though. The guy made out like a bandit.
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Old 09-26-2014, 07:25 PM   #215
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Heh, the bending in the video was faked.

http://www.businessinsider.com/bendg...phone-6-2014-9

33 million views later, though. The guy made out like a bandit.
The article doesn't say that it was faked, it is just saying that is what some Apple fans are saying.

What you see in the video can be easily explained with physics. If the deformation is elastic, not plastic, the device would return to it's previous shape.



Unless you are suggesting that Business Insider takes things like this seriously:
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Reddit user "tittywagon" was one online commenter who is skeptical of BendGate: "The hoodie, glasses, backwards hat. The guy is a side-show idiot who blew it way out of proportion for YouTube views."
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Old 09-26-2014, 07:59 PM   #216
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The timestamps in the video show that the phone went from bent to unbent. Maybe he bent it so hard he bent time, too?

Or maybe he bent the phone using tools, flattened it out again, and then bent it with his hands once the aluminum had already been weakened. Or maybe he bent one phone, then later used another to film the earlier parts of the video because he didn't have enough footage. Admitting that would be to admit to lying, though, since he claimed that the phone he was bending was the one he carried in his pocket and which had a slight bend already just from being carried around.

Either way, the film doesn't show what it purports to show.
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The timestamps in the video show that the phone went from bent to unbent.
Which is what you would expect from elastic deformation. Don't you learn this kind of thing in middle school?
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Old 09-26-2014, 08:11 PM   #218
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It seems you don't really understand what's going on.

Do you understand that he shows the unbent, "before" phone at 2:26 and the bent, "after" phone at 1:58?
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Old 09-26-2014, 08:27 PM   #219
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I've no info, but my guess would be yes - they've replaced a cracked iPad no charge for me before. Though they did check that it was in a case at the time.
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How did they check that?
The CCTV Apple installs in your home as a condition of warranty, of course.

They saw it was in a good case when I took it in, and asked me if it had been in the case all along. And probably also checked my long customer history with their company.
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It seems you don't really understand what's going on.

Do you understand that he shows the unbent, "before" phone at 2:26 and the bent, "after" phone at 1:58?
The guy pointed that his phone was slightly bent before he did any tests. That would be plastic deformation resulting from everyday use.

He tries to bend the phone by hand and it bends, and you see this at 1:58 on the phone, but if you keep looking at the video you notice that the phone becomes less bent. That makes sense because this is what happens when you have an elastic deformation.

He bends it again at 2:26 on the phone, and this time there is plastic deformation as well. This would be the part filmed from the top where you can see just his hands bending the phone.

You can see the elastic deformation happening in the video where he bends the Galaxy note 3, and also the statement that as he attempted to bend the iPhone back to its original form it cracked. The screen is more rigid than the metal frame so while bending it in one direction will result in a bent phone, bending it in the other direction will result in a cracked screen/frame.
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Old 09-27-2014, 01:33 AM   #221
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Heh, the bending in the video was faked.

http://www.businessinsider.com/bendg...phone-6-2014-9

33 million views later, though. The guy made out like a bandit.
He's done it again, to prove it was not hoaxed:

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Consumer Reports did some testing for themselves.

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Old 09-27-2014, 02:28 AM   #223
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The first video is clearly faked. Hard to know why. The second video seems pretty legitimate.

That being said, this guy is deliberately setting out to destroy a piece of equipment. It's no more shocking that the phone breaks than if he had dented a car door by taking a hammer to it, or if he had shattered a computer monitor by throwing it on the ground.
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Actually his Point seemed to be that it is possible to engineer a device like that without the bending problem which he tried to show using the Moto X. Some testing lab will come out with a scientific test in due time and it is perhaps better to withold judgement until all facts are available to us.
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This is the most convincing bend test I've seen to date: http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/24/68...HM1RgQmUy_p9TC

The device clearly has a structural deficiency.

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