Sony closes USA and Canada ebook store - Page 15

banjobama · 02-11-2014, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by issybird

As an aside, I really like Reader Library; it does some things better than Calibre.

Name one.

The only thing that comes to mind is the importing of notes.

Alfy · 02-11-2014, 10:44 PM

Red burgundy? The reader software does burgundy really well...

Seriously, as a Mac owner, the reader software was one of the biggest strikes against Sony. If it hadn't been for calibre, I probably would have switched brands just because of that.

Purple Lady · 02-12-2014, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rev. Bob

The way it's been explained, the big factor during the transitional period is how the book was first downloaded. If that's to an old reader, you get the old DRM. If it's to a new reader (including ADE 3.0) and the new DRM is turned on at the server, you get the new DRM and never get the old DRM.

So if I got a new computer and needed to download my books again it would know I downloaded the books before and still give me the old drm?

ETA: also if I had to reset my reader or my computer - it would be as if I got a new one and would need to download again.

pdurrant · 02-12-2014, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Purple Lady

It does affect your already purchased books if you don't have them downloaded though, right?

It will affect already purchased ebooks only if you've *never* downloaded them before. If they've been downloaded even once with the old DRM, all future downloads of that particular book will be with the old DRM, as far as I understand things.

pdurrant · 02-12-2014, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Purple Lady

So if I got a new computer and needed to download my books again it would know I downloaded the books before and still give me the old drm?

Yes, that's how it seems to be.

6charlong · 02-12-2014, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Purple Lady

So if I got a new computer and needed to download my books again it would know I downloaded the books before and still give me the old drm?

ETA: also if I had to reset my reader or my computer - it would be as if I got a new one and would need to download again.

I hope I'm not repeating something you already know, but with a new computer you must download ADE, install it on the new machine (or new hard drive if that is all you replaced) and reauthorize that machine/hard drive with Adobe using your username and password.

The sticky part can be that there is a limit to how many computers they allow for each account and it doesn't matter if you de-authorize the old computer, it still is counted (Amazon does things differently). An additional slot for an authorization will eventually be allotted to you, or if you have a particularly bad run of luck and go through a lot of hard drives or something, you can phone Adobe and plead your case for another slot.

BearMountainBooks · 02-12-2014, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 6charlong

I hope I'm not repeating something you already know, but with a new computer you must download ADE, install it on the new machine (or new hard drive if that is all you replaced) and reauthorize that machine/hard drive with Adobe using your username and password.

The sticky part can be that there is a limit to how many computers they allow for each account and it doesn't matter if you de-authorize the old computer, it still is counted (Amazon does things differently). An additional slot for an authorization will eventually be allotted to you, or if you have a particularly bad run of luck and go through a lot of hard drives or something, you can phone Adobe and plead your case for another slot.

Question: I have Kobo for PC. I don't think I have the ADE unless they load it for me. Does anyone know if they load it? I know I can read the books so I'm assuming I have everything I need (unless I decide to strip the DRM so I can read the books on my kindle?)

I'm curious if ADE software is on my machine for library download purposes. I don't think it is because when I downloaded an epub from the library, I couldn't figure out how to read it. I had no idea if I had digital editions and was too lazy to try and figure it out. I didn't think I had it. I ended up reading part of the book in the "library cloud" instead.

I think I will go look and see if I can find a digital editions something or other. I know it's not loaded on my desktop icons, but...I should be able to find it. Maybe.

Purple Lady · 02-12-2014, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

It will affect already purchased ebooks only if you've *never* downloaded them before. If they've been downloaded even once with the old DRM, all future downloads of that particular book will be with the old DRM, as far as I understand things.

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

Yes, that's how it seems to be.

Thanks, I thought each device would be different.

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Originally Posted by 6charlong

I hope I'm not repeating something you already know, but with a new computer you must download ADE, install it on the new machine (or new hard drive if that is all you replaced) and reauthorize that machine/hard drive with Adobe using your username and password.

The sticky part can be that there is a limit to how many computers they allow for each account and it doesn't matter if you de-authorize the old computer, it still is counted (Amazon does things differently). An additional slot for an authorization will eventually be allotted to you, or if you have a particularly bad run of luck and go through a lot of hard drives or something, you can phone Adobe and plead your case for another slot.

I did know this and it's a low number for Adobe. I have a laptop, two desktop computers, two tablets, a phone, and a couple of ereaders. And this is only current devices - I've had two other laptops and another ereader. But I guess most people don't have that many.

BearMountainBooks · 02-12-2014, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Purple Lady

Thanks, I thought each device would be different.

I did know this and it's a low number for Adobe. I have a laptop, two desktop computers, two tablets, a phone, and a couple of ereaders. And this is only current devices - I've had two other laptops and another ereader. But I guess most people don't have that many.

I don't think that is an unreasonable amount AT ALL, especially for a family. I think their numbers are unrealistic if they are lower than about 20. Devices get old, get replaced, etc.

I know it's a popular way to control software, but it's ridiculous. I own photoshop and they allow TWO. TWO. I had one machine die on me and loaded it on my new one. Then I had to travel and needed to get work done on my travel machine. When I tried to load it, well, both of my licenses were in use (dead computer and new one.) It was NOT fun getting it all set up when I had to travel. TWO. Of course now they are trying to move to a subscription model so that in addition to paying an arm and a leg, you are tied to paying it monthly...RANT GOES HERE.

Purple Lady · 02-12-2014, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BearMountainBooks

I don't think that is an unreasonable amount AT ALL, especially for a family. I think their numbers are unrealistic if they are lower than about 20. Devices get old, get replaced, etc.

I know it's a popular way to control software, but it's ridiculous. I own photoshop and they allow TWO. TWO. I had one machine die on me and loaded it on my new one. Then I had to travel and needed to get work done on my travel machine. When I tried to load it, well, both of my licenses were in use (dead computer and new one.) It was NOT fun getting it all set up when I had to travel. TWO. Of course now they are trying to move to a subscription model so that in addition to paying an arm and a leg, you are tied to paying it monthly...RANT GOES HERE.

That's actually just me, though my husband and I share the two desktops. I wasn't thinking of a family but if I did have kids I might not be able to afford all that tech.

EowynCarter · 02-12-2014, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

I wonder what they'll do with those of us outside the US who have US accounts?

I also have a UK store account, and I haven't received a notice that the UK store is closing. No doubt it will happen soonish.

Yeah, me too. I have a US account, despite not being in the US.

BearMountainBooks · 02-12-2014, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Purple Lady

That's actually just me, though my husband and I share the two desktops. I wasn't thinking of a family but if I did have kids I might not be able to afford all that tech.

Well, it's still not unreasonable to assume people might have multiple devices (and they really have no right to decide on that number either. And if they are going to arbitrarily have such a number it needs to be clearly stated when you buy the license.) I don't have kids either, but if I just count the devices we own, I can get to 3 without...4 without leaving the living room.

benham · 02-12-2014, 05:18 PM

My Palm is older than my iTouch, which is older than my Sony Reader, which is older than my Sony Experia Tablet Z.

SoCalReader · 02-12-2014, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by banjobama

That said, I haven't bought a book from the Sony store in AT LEAST 3 years, and I have no opinion whatsoever on their closing.

The Sony bookstore is closing only in North America. See: https://us.en.kb.sony.com/app/answer...-closure---faq

sharphamster · 02-13-2014, 09:40 AM

My Kobo Desktop updated to version 3.6.0 2/11/14 (d0a9bf18ea) sometime between Tuesday and today. The RM version isn't named, but the copyright dates are 1995-2011, so still the old stuff.

I thought I'd take a chance and see if Kobo had added Sony devices to the new software.

It recognizes my 350, and is attempting to sync with it. My Adobe ID is correctly identified under the device tab (different than my Kobo ID). I've synced the 350 through ADE 1.7 and the 3M Cloud desktops in the past, and managed collections with the older Library software, (Sony Reader desktop chokes and hangs on my 350) along with drag&drop for non-DRM books.

*All* of my Kobo purchases have been automatically added to the Digital Editions directory, there seems to be no user control over what content is synced. Hopefully the sync will complete before it fills up the memory - I have almost 200 books in my Kobo account and a few of them are fairly large files.

I also have a new and empty Kepub directory. So there's that.

Curious to see how this all shakes out.

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02-11-2014, 10:44 PM	#212
Alfy Liseur de Bonne Aventure Posts: 374 Karma: 2176666 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Paris, France Device: PRS T1	Red burgundy? The reader software does burgundy really well... Seriously, as a Mac owner, the reader software was one of the biggest strikes against Sony. If it hadn't been for calibre, I probably would have switched brands just because of that.

02-12-2014, 05:18 PM	#223
benham Guru Posts: 882 Karma: 5565888 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Townsend, WI Device: Palm TX, PRS-505 (BLUE)	My Palm is older than my iTouch, which is older than my Sony Reader, which is older than my Sony Experia Tablet Z.

02-13-2014, 09:40 AM	#225
sharphamster Anathema Device Posts: 283 Karma: 257456 Join Date: Oct 2011 Device: Sony T3/350, Kobo AuraH20/Mini, Axim X50v	My Kobo Desktop updated to version 3.6.0 2/11/14 (d0a9bf18ea) sometime between Tuesday and today. The RM version isn't named, but the copyright dates are 1995-2011, so still the old stuff. I thought I'd take a chance and see if Kobo had added Sony devices to the new software. It recognizes my 350, and is attempting to sync with it. My Adobe ID is correctly identified under the device tab (different than my Kobo ID). I've synced the 350 through ADE 1.7 and the 3M Cloud desktops in the past, and managed collections with the older Library software, (Sony Reader desktop chokes and hangs on my 350) along with drag&drop for non-DRM books. All of my Kobo purchases have been automatically added to the Digital Editions directory, there seems to be no user control over what content is synced. Hopefully the sync will complete before it fills up the memory - I have almost 200 books in my Kobo account and a few of them are fairly large files. I also have a new and empty Kepub directory. So there's that. Curious to see how this all shakes out.

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