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DRM doesn't bother me. As long as I can read a book on a computer I don't care. 18 6.41%
DRM is evil and should be done away with entirely. 200 71.17%
Quit whining about DRM, it's a dead horse. 13 4.63%
If DRM were a dead horse, DRM would be dead. 9 3.20%
DRM is a useful tool that prevents piracy. 4 1.42%
Some other option not thought of for this poll 37 13.17%
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Old 07-04-2012, 09:19 PM   #211
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Old 07-04-2012, 09:34 PM   #212
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You can't blame Adobe for using APIs that are part of Windows. But you can blame the makers of Wine for not supporting these APIs.
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Old 07-04-2012, 11:36 PM   #213
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You can't blame Adobe for using APIs that are part of Windows.
Why not? Does Adobe want its success to be pinned to Windows' market penetration?

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But you can blame the makers of Wine for not supporting these APIs.
I doubt it's a deliberate choice not to support them. Microsoft doesn't make its code easily accessible to the public, and would prefer that only Microsoft buyers (or at least direct Windows users) could use Windows-based software.
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Old 07-05-2012, 04:01 AM   #214
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Maybe VirtualBox would work.
Running a copy of actual MS Windows would, of course, work. But people using Linux understandably regard this as an unacceptable solution. If they wanted to have the hassle/expense of running Windows, they'd be running Windows already.
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Old 07-05-2012, 04:08 AM   #215
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I may be missing something blindingly obvious here, but if you can use an android app to download ADE stuff surely that can be ported a lot easier than a Windows program?
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Old 07-05-2012, 06:19 AM   #216
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I wish that DRM removal could be obvious for Linux users. I've found some work arounds under wine, but I find that blog that we're all supposed to google confusing, which leads to dead links, and simply saying "Linux users will find it easy to change the code to plug in"... well, no.
Well, wishing won't make it so! (Homer to Barney) People could get money together to "donate" to people at XDA or something. It would be a bit of trouble to write and maintain after all.

Re. DRM I hope that DRM-free experiments like the Tor Books one become more popular. The ideal situation is like with the Humble Bundle indie games pack, where you pay what you consider fair and there is no DRM. This is actually very profitable but the scale is smaller. Also the audience has a bit more "civic responsibility" than the mass public. Would you make as much money releasing "Harry Potter" using that scheme as you do through a DRM edition? We don't really know but many would have doubts.

The other side of the coin is that the intellectual property industry, in its pursuit of private profit, causes social harms through draconian and questionably useful laws that it lobbies for. From what I understand, arguments that if you don't have strong IP law you do not get innovation are not well supported by evidence. We should be pushing for weaker IP protection, especially in areas like manufacture of generic medicines for countries facing disease epidemics, or right to freedom of speech and open public access on the internet.

Unfortunately the IP lobbying industry has been having a lot of success lately. In the end it is another aspect of the most pressing issue of our times, rich people using their money to influence politicians so that it is easier for them to become more wealthy. This is a feedback loop which has gotten out of control. But that is getting off the topic.
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Old 07-05-2012, 04:08 PM   #217
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Re. DRM I hope that DRM-free experiments like the Tor Books one become more popular. The ideal situation is like with the Humble Bundle indie games pack, where you pay what you consider fair and there is no DRM. This is actually very profitable but the scale is smaller. Also the audience has a bit more "civic responsibility" than the mass public. Would you make as much money releasing "Harry Potter" using that scheme as you do through a DRM edition? We don't really know but many would have doubts.
It's hard to say. I don't have any pirated editions of the Harry Potter books. DRM is not what has stopped me. If I wanted them, I would have them. I don't want pirated editions. Unfortunately, I cannot extrapolate from me to the general public.

DRM hassles do not make me support piracy. They do make me not support publishers.
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Old 07-05-2012, 04:37 PM   #218
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It's hard to say. I don't have any pirated editions of the Harry Potter books. DRM is not what has stopped me. If I wanted them, I would have them. I don't want pirated editions. Unfortunately, I cannot extrapolate from me to the general public.

DRM hassles do not make me support piracy. They do make me not support publishers.
I agree with you. I don't buy or even visit pirate sites but I hate DRM. After spending thousands on ebooks I really don't want to have to rebuy them again if I want to change readers.
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Old 07-05-2012, 04:50 PM   #219
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I agree with you. I don't buy or even visit pirate sites but I hate DRM. After spending thousands on ebooks I really don't want to have to rebuy them again if I want to change readers.
Then your only options are to either not buy any ebooks with DRM, or make the acquaintance of Apprentice Alf.
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Old 07-05-2012, 05:18 PM   #220
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Unfortunately the IP lobbying industry has been having a lot of success lately. In the end it is another aspect of the most pressing issue of our times, rich people using their money to influence politicians so that it is easier for them to become more wealthy. This is a feedback loop which has gotten out of control. But that is getting off the topic.
I'd say that it's 100% on topic. The entire point of DRM is to grab more power/control for corporations.

After all, DRM is useless for preventing piracy, but it's really good at eliminating consumer rights like fair use and first sale.
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The choice wasn't comprehensive enough for us, but as the nearest, Alf & I ticked DRM doesn't bother us ..........
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I was referring to the previous poster's claim that "soon we won't be able to buy books without Windows". I don't believe that statement is true; you'll be able to buy them using a Mac.
Oh sorry about that. I sometimes use "windows" as an synonym for "the two closed OS".
I'll try to be more precice next times.
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Old 07-06-2012, 05:29 AM   #223
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Ahh well, back when I made the poll I couldn't think of every option people may come up with, so I did stick "other' on there.

Clearly people who remove DRM sort of "don't like it" otherwise they wouldn't implement ways to disinfect it. I still, as a linux user, don't mind just sticking with the books that come free of DRM already, so I would also choose "DRM doesn't bother me"
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Oh sorry about that. I sometimes use "windows" as an synonym for "the two closed OS".
I'll try to be more precice next times.
But is even that true? Are older versions of ADE going to stop working? (Genuine question - I don't know the answer.)
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