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Old 07-14-2017, 12:08 PM   #2221
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It will force an update.

Yes, you can bypass it:
1) Turn on wifi
2) Wifi will scan for access points and present you with a list to choose from.
3) DO NOT choose from the list.
4) Examine the display carefully, there is a 'continue setup later' touch-point on it (often written in -1pt type).
Choose to 'continue later' (a whole lot later).

Now it will continue its start-up to the point where you can connect to its USB storage and put the 'blocker directory name' described in Step #7 at the top of visible USB storage.

**THEN** it should be safe to continue with the setup process.
-- and if it isn't, tell us so we can warn other people --
ok, cool, it looks to be proceeding ok now. I am a panicky fool and was trying to follow the wrong directions when I first posted
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ok, cool, it looks to be proceeding ok now. I am a panicky fool and was trying to follow the wrong directions when I first posted
You are in the correct thread, just go to first post here for your device.
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Old 07-14-2017, 12:24 PM   #2223
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You are in the correct thread, just go to first post here for your device.
I realized that when you mentioned a "step 7" and I didn't know what that was. D'oh I had googled for instructions and somehow wound up at a standalone post for step 5.

Mission Accomplished for now. Re: step 7, just to confirm, I don't have to block updates unless I want to, right? I can let it update, it'll still be jailbroken, and I'd just have to reinstall anything like KUAL or Librariansync?
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I realized that when you mentioned a "step 7" and I didn't know what that was. D'oh I had googled for instructions and somehow wound up at a standalone post for step 5.

Mission Accomplished for now. Re: step 7, just to confirm, I don't have to block updates unless I want to, right? I can let it update, it'll still be jailbroken, and I'd just have to reinstall anything like KUAL or Librariansync?
That is correct.
The blocking of updates in your case was just so you could go on-line long enough for Amazon's system to update the Devices S.O. status -
Without updating its firmware version.
Let us know how that works out for you.
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Old 07-14-2017, 01:57 PM   #2225
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That is correct.
The blocking of updates in your case was just so you could go on-line long enough for Amazon's system to update the Devices S.O. status -
Without updating its firmware version.
Let us know how that works out for you.
Right, yeah, I guess I wasn't clear about how far I'd gotten. I did that, turned the wifi back off, and went through the rest of the jailbreak without a hitch. Now I'm back at step seven, with a nice new jailbroken 5.5.0 installed and wondering if I can start installing KUAL, or if an update will eat it and/or my supposedly update-proof jailbreak.
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Old 07-14-2017, 02:07 PM   #2226
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Sorry if I'm pestering, by the way. It's just that the last time I jailbroke a kindle was my paperwhite like 5 years ago, and the big commandment was Thou Shalt Not Let It Update, Evar, and I'm a little nervous about screwing it up.
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Old 07-14-2017, 02:09 PM   #2227
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I'm not the expert, but until he's back: I believe your 5.5.0 is a FACTORY version, and is not suitable for normal running. I believe you have to install SOME other version of software. The one it came with could be good.
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Right, yeah, I guess I wasn't clear about how far I'd gotten. I did that, turned the wifi back off, and went through the rest of the jailbreak without a hitch. Now I'm back at step seven, with a nice new jailbroken 5.5.0 installed and wondering if I can start installing KUAL, or if an update will eat it and/or my supposedly update-proof jailbreak.
It is a Voyage -
You MUST complete Steps #7 and #8
The spoiler in #7 hides the links to consumer firmware releases.
Nothing that we make was ever intended to run on the factory (internal use only) firmware.

Yes, it will survive.

You should also install the 'hotfix' to your old paperwhite.
Then you can let it update also.
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Old 07-14-2017, 04:31 PM   #2229
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If the blocker directory 'works' is dependent on the firmware currently running.
We don't know if it will prevent an update on the version you have, because no one has tried it and reported back to us.
You get to be that person.
The Downgrade worked! The new Firmware is now 5.7.4
So its possible to downgrade from 5.8.9.0.1

Thank you for your help. I will try to get the jailbreak on the device tomorrow.

Do you think there will be a workaround to jailbreak firmware 5.8.9.2? If not I would send that updated device back to amazon

Thx!
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At this moment, I have to say no.
Those with the know-how have either left the site, are in grad school, are very sick or dead or presumed dead.

Until we get new people, the answer is no.
From previous posts. But only because I've been following the thread for a while, and knew it had been asked before. I know you didn't know that.
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Ah damn ... ok. I'll try to get an exchange device. Thank you for the info.

The JB worked on the downgraded PW3W. Is it safe to use the OTA to 5.8.9.2?
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Ah damn ... ok. I'll try to get an exchange device. Thank you for the info.

The JB worked on the downgraded PW3W. Is it safe to use the OTA to 5.8.9.2?
Safe at this point, as the JB will remain, but you will need to reinstall much of the enhancements as only the JB itself is preserved over an update.

Of course there is no guarantee as to what Amazon may do in the future. Are there any features in the update that you can't live without? In that case go ahead and update. Otherwise you might want to install the blocker to prevent an Amazon update until such time as they offer something new you can't live without. Even then I would suggest you wait until it is confirmed that the new upgrade does not take aggressive measures against the JB.

If you do decide to update I would suggest you install the RP and CRP first, as they should give you some protection should the upgrade go horribly wrong in some way. The most common way for horrible things to happen is if you allow an upgrade to start with a low battery and the storage is corrupted.

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All,

What do you all think the chances of finding a copy of a 5.8.9.0.1.bin file on the filesystem using a deleted file recovery program are? I don't think the firmware was probably installed that way, but there's a possibility right?

If anyone see this comment and still has one of thee new paperwhites coming int he mail, think about trying it for us!
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The Downgrade worked! The new Firmware is now 5.7.4
So its possible to downgrade from 5.8.9.0.1

Thank you for your help. I will try to get the jailbreak on the device tomorrow.

Do you think there will be a workaround to jailbreak firmware 5.8.9.2? If not I would send that updated device back to amazon

Thx!
I only follow the postings of Amazon(USA) -
They have never posted anything numbered 5.8.9.0.1 - the USA postings are: 5.8.9.0.2
The -.0.1 can be jailbroken, the -.0.2 can not.

Most likely, they dropped the "block downgrade" patch for the build of that one version (and they caught it before they shipped any to the USA).
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I have asked on reddit for people feedback as well, I have one report:


https://www.reddit.com/r/kindle/comm...d_new/dk7zh60/

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Just arrived, model number G090G1 running 5.8.0.9.1
I'm not interested in jailbreaking it, but I hope this was helpful.

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Ordered from the US store (amazon.com), shipped from a facility in Indiana. Build number 3175970011.
Happy to help!
I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt an assume he meant 5.8.9.0.1 like the other posters here, based on the build ID.
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