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I would disagree with Pierce's example of the writing desk in his critique of Descartes. I find it not at all difficult to believe someone might doubt the existence of the desk upon which they're writing. How do we know for certain that what we're presently experiencing is a moment of lucidity? For all we know, for one reason or another the table may be an hallucination. Then again, we may be dreaming. Are we always aware in the dream state that what we are experiencing is not, in fact, real? Are we butterflies dreaming that we're Chinese philosophers? Many's the time when I felt certain I had placed my car keys on a table or in a drawer, only to discover I was mistaken. From your own tradition; could a Jinn be deceiving us into believing black is white? As many experiments into the nature of memory reveal; I think our grasp on reality is much less tenacious that we normally care to admit. There have been many detractors upon Descartes cogito ergo sum over the years (Russell, as I recall, said that he would have been better to begin with the preposition "There are thoughts"); but the idea that the existence of a table upon which one is writing could not be doubted is, in my opinion, erroneous. |
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Reality is reality because multiple individuals agree on certain aspects of it. But there is also the possibility that those external individuals are nothing more than creations of our own deluded mind. ![]() |
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We only exist within the reality of our mind. Is everything around us, mere illusion...
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Is it irrational to consider the possibility that I am illusory?
Authors create imaginary characters all the time; raise that ability a few orders of magnitude and you could have imaginary characters convinced that they are real - me ![]() |
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![]() I'm not clear how knowing what an 'illusion' is disproves solipsism. Can't the internal world contain illusions? We see magic illusions, films on screens all producing illusions - yet they could all be part of our internal illusion. Can't we have illusions within illusions? ![]() Mind you, if solipsism was true I'd already know all this stuff, and wouldn't have to ask. ![]() Last edited by Sparrow; 06-09-2010 at 11:19 AM. |
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Oops, almost replied to my own posting....don't recognize my own avatar or writing apparently, does that mean I'm an illusion or figment of my imagination?
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