Gen3 New Firmware build 796 available for CyBook Gen3 - Page 14

junior · 08-19-2009, 06:08 PM

bookeen, no more.

delphidb96 · 08-19-2009, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by junior

bookeen, no more.

And just what is THAT supposed to mean???

Derek

junior · 08-20-2009, 09:03 AM

I think if we want a new firmware (EPUB) we have to buy a new device (OPUS).

bookeen, I need no more.

Godzil · 08-20-2009, 09:08 AM

The ePub firmware will come in a near futur, you must NOT buy an Opus to have ePub. The only thing is that ePub firmware is not ready yet for make an official upgrade.

Some may argue that they now sell Opus with ePub firmware, but I think that it's not the same beast to install a firmware on a new device, than installing it in an already existing device...

HarryT · 08-20-2009, 09:13 AM

The Opus firmware is "v1.9", which suggests to me that it's still regarded as a beta version. It's certainly a little buggy, still.

junior · 08-20-2009, 09:18 AM

Hi Godzil and HarryT

What I don't understand is that the firmware already have in OPUS. So, why not release bookeen to Gens3. Does the work is very great?

Godzil · 08-20-2009, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by junior

Hi Godzil and HarryT

What I don't understand is that the firmware already have in OPUS. So, why not release bookeen to Gens3. Does the work is very great?

I quote myself:

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Originally Posted by godzil

Some may argue that they now sell Opus with ePub firmware, but I think that it's not the same beast to install a firmware on a new device, than installing it in an already existing device...

Manichean · 08-20-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

The Opus firmware is "v1.9", which suggests to me that it's still regarded as a beta version. It's certainly a little buggy, still.

How did you arrive at that conclusion?

JSWolf · 08-20-2009, 11:03 AM

Does this thread really need to be a sticky since it's old and obsolete?

HarryT · 08-20-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Manichean

How did you arrive at that conclusion?

Because I hypothesise that the "real" new firmware will be v2.

gerraldo · 08-20-2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Because I hypothesise that the "real" new firmware will be v2.

Their numbering is still a miracle to me... The latest Gen3 FW is v1.4 and the Opus is a new device (and why jump from Gen3 v1.4 to Opus v1.9 - what's the BIG improvements/changes?!).

Logically the first released Opus FW should be v1.0 (or maybe v1.1, but not v1.9)! Maybe someone at Bookenn came up with "hey, let's just start the Opus FW numbering with v1.9 - now that'll puzzle them...".

Godzil · 08-20-2009, 12:22 PM

Maybe because the firmware inside the opus, and more exactely the software (BooReader) is the same application in both Gen3 and Opus, so changing the numbering would be a pain for everyone is the Opus and Gen3 use different version for the same application?

I suspect that the 1.9/2.0 will be the ePub version, and currently sold Gen3 with 1.4 version will be the mobipocket one.

gerraldo · 08-20-2009, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Godzil

Maybe because the firmware inside the opus, and more exactely the software (BooReader) is the same application in both Gen3 and Opus, so changing the numbering would be a pain for everyone is the Opus and Gen3 use different version for the same application?

But they have changed it and it won't stay the same (even if the first Gen3 will be v1.9), as I doubt each time they'll release a new firmware for the Opus (fixing Opus-releated bugs) they'll release a new one for the Gen3 and vice-versa...

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Originally Posted by Godzil

I suspect that the 1.9/2.0 will be the ePub version, and currently sold Gen3 with 1.4 version will be the mobipocket one.

In fact, this'll be even more confusing (normally higher number = more advanced) and will the Opus Mobi-FW (if it ever comes) be v1.4?! Not very logical or transparent and misleading for the user...

Godzil · 08-20-2009, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gerraldo

But they have changed it and it won't stay the same (even if the first Gen3 will be v1.9), as I doubt each time they'll release a new firmware for the Opus (fixing Opus-releated bugs) they'll release a new one for the Gen3 and vice-versa...

That was not what they said to us, the Opus and the Gen3 will get the SAME firmware update. An update for the Opus will work for the Gen3 and ViceVersa

Snuffi · 08-21-2009, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Godzil

The ePub firmware will come in a near futur, you must NOT buy an Opus to have ePub. The only thing is that ePub firmware is not ready yet for make an official upgrade.

Some may argue that they now sell Opus with ePub firmware, but I think that it's not the same beast to install a firmware on a new device, than installing it in an already existing device...

I don't really believe this anymore. They promised folder support ages ago and know the people are waiting for that (plus a few other fixes). Early in 2009 they decided to push back the update to include ePub support. While it's unwise to cancel an already fixed release date to include some huge new feature (because they must have known back then that it can't be done in a manner of a few short weeks), it's been clear now for at least 2 months that there will be 2 separate versions, one for mobipocket and one for ePub.

If the problem really only was with the ePub version and even though there is no problem with the mobi version Bookeen is not releasing that one, that would be telling their customers:
"We know that most of our existing customers have DRMed mobi books and therefore need primarily the mobi version. It's ready and sitting right here on my desk but we don't give it to you because we think it would be more fun (for us) to make you wait even longer without any need."

I am very certain that not even Bookeen is voluntarily frustrating their customers without any reason whatsoever. I am therefore convinced that the mobi version is NOT ready for release and still needs some work.

(What I don't understand, however, is how they can give a beta firmware which is so broken they can't fix it in 2 months to existing customers, as they did at the Paris meeting. This defeats every know logic.)

08-20-2009, 09:08 AM	#199
Godzil a pthread?? where? where? Posts: 1,763 Karma: 30462 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Somewhere in EU Device: Newton MessagePad 2100, and only this	The ePub firmware will come in a near futur, you must NOT buy an Opus to have ePub. The only thing is that ePub firmware is not ready yet for make an official upgrade. Some may argue that they now sell Opus with ePub firmware, but I think that it's not the same beast to install a firmware on a new device, than installing it in an already existing device... Last edited by Godzil; 08-20-2009 at 09:16 AM.

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08-19-2009, 06:08 PM	#196
junior Connoisseur Posts: 85 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Fortaleza, Brasil Device: Palm TX, CyBook Gen3	bookeen, no more.

08-20-2009, 09:03 AM	#198
junior Connoisseur Posts: 85 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Fortaleza, Brasil Device: Palm TX, CyBook Gen3	I think if we want a new firmware (EPUB) we have to buy a new device (OPUS). bookeen, I need no more.

08-20-2009, 09:13 AM	#200
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,550 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	The Opus firmware is "v1.9", which suggests to me that it's still regarded as a beta version. It's certainly a little buggy, still.

08-20-2009, 09:18 AM	#201
junior Connoisseur Posts: 85 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Fortaleza, Brasil Device: Palm TX, CyBook Gen3	Hi Godzil and HarryT What I don't understand is that the firmware already have in OPUS. So, why not release bookeen to Gens3. Does the work is very great?

08-20-2009, 11:03 AM	#204
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,796 Karma: 146391129 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Does this thread really need to be a sticky since it's old and obsolete?

08-20-2009, 12:22 PM	#207
Godzil a pthread?? where? where? Posts: 1,763 Karma: 30462 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Somewhere in EU Device: Newton MessagePad 2100, and only this	Maybe because the firmware inside the opus, and more exactely the software (BooReader) is the same application in both Gen3 and Opus, so changing the numbering would be a pain for everyone is the Opus and Gen3 use different version for the same application? I suspect that the 1.9/2.0 will be the ePub version, and currently sold Gen3 with 1.4 version will be the mobipocket one.

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