FIRE vs TABLET

[chessico]

Toys-R-US now has the Coby Kyros 7022-4G for $144.99 with Free Shipping.

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[Blossom]

Originally Posted by Noah98

The big problem with the Coby is the poor battery life (4 hours), low screen resolution (800 x 480), and no android market/google apps (although you can hack the market in). For $20 more, the Kindle Fire or Kobo Vox are much better deals.

I read two reviews by blogs on it yesterday that said they were getting 7 to 8 hours of battery life on theirs. The screen will do me just find you do realize I am reading on a 3.2 inch screen now? It has a resolution of 320 x 480 pixels. Also the Colby is lighter and I wont have to pay shipping.

[Blossom]

Originally Posted by chessico

Toys-R-US now has the Coby Kyros 7022-4G for $144.99 with Free Shipping.

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I hope they keep that price till I get the money to get mine.

Originally Posted by Jabby

Hi Blossom,

I just bought a Coby 7022 from here with free shipping:

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index...LAID=904887687

Now I can see how it stacks up to the 7024, which I think is a great tablet per dollar.

Regards - John

Enjoy your Tablet! I have to wait till a little more toward my Birthday to get mine.

Edit: Just talk to my mama and she says she will have the money on Saturday!

[Noah98]

Originally Posted by Jabby

800X480 is about the same resolution as the iPad's 132dpi.
Regards - John

I'm not sure how a slightly better dpi (133) makes an 800 x 480 screen equal to one with 1024 x 768. However, I confess my ignorance in this regard. To my eyes though, my ipad 2 screen looks much clearer than any 800 x 480 screen that I've ever seen.

And yes, I realize that the 7 inch screen makes a difference.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by SCION

I really don't understand the Fire vs Other Tablets thing. If one doesn't care for the Amazon ecosystem and/or lack of SD card slot then they should get an open tablet. Comparing apples to oranges. Folks shouldn't make others feel like they are choosing the wrong device. Buy what you feel comfortable with. Or like some, buy the Fire and another tablet.

[Noah98]

Originally Posted by Blossom

I read two reviews by blogs on it yesterday that said they were getting 7 to 8 hours of battery life on theirs. The screen will do me just find you do realize I am reading on a 3.2 inch screen now? It has a resolution of 320 x 480 pixels. Also the Colby is lighter and I wont have to pay shipping.

I'm sure that you will enjoy the Coby. I just read a few reviews that stated that battery life was short, but everything else was really solid. I only read a few reviews from bloggers, so the information may not be accurate.

As far as the screen resolution goes, I'm sure everything will look fine. Actually, many android apps are natively lower resolution. I realize that just because screen resolution is a big deal to me, doesn't mean that it is for everyone.

[Noah98]

Originally Posted by chessico

By the way, the Kindle Fire does NOT have access to Android Market either.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that the Kindle Fire has the advantage when it comes to App stores.

[Blossom]

Originally Posted by chessico

I'm just glad that a little bit of research has benefited someone in tablet land.

It will be interesting to see what Black Friday 2011 has for all tablet lovers everywhere,
although the predictions seemed supressed as everyone anxiously awaits the shipment of
their Kindle Fire!

Originally Posted by Noah98

I'm sure that you will enjoy the Coby. I just read a few reviews that stated that battery life was short, but everything else was really solid. I only read a few reviews from bloggers, so the information may not be accurate.

As far as the screen resolution goes, I'm sure everything will look fine. Actually, many android apps are natively lower resolution. I realize that just because screen resolution is a big deal to me, doesn't mean that it is for everyone.

Thank you! I do know a few tricks on Android to extend battery life but I only read for like 1 to 3 hours a night anyway. The screen isn't a problem for me due to I will only be reading on it. Hubby might want to play Angry Birds but once that fizzles out I'll have it to myself.

[Jabby]

Originally Posted by kennyc

I'll be interested to see what you think of it. I'm still of the opinion that the Fire is better device with better support. We'll see though how it all plays out in the end.

Hi Kenny,

I believe you are right that the Fire is the better device and there is no doubt about Amazon support. I think that how open the Fire is to other apps will determine its ultimate value and how wide its market is.

Regards - John

[Oldpilot]

Bigger screens, more hardware, potentially better Android - but at a higher cost.

When considering cost, consider that Amazon ships free. And when I put the Fire into my shopping cart, I got an offer of $50 off if I signed up for an Amazon Visa card. I did, was approved in a few seconds, and had the Fire on order for $149 to be delivered around Thanksgiving.

[Jabby]

Originally Posted by Noah98

To my eyes though, my ipad 2 screen looks much clearer than any 800 x 480 screen that I've ever seen.

Your eyes aren't playing tricks on you!

All other thing being equal the higher the dpi (resolution) the better defined the objects that are shown. Since they both have the same resolution, what you are seeing is the difference in technology (IPS) and the quality of the screen. Overall screen quality is hard to beat.

The Fire with its 170dpi IPS screen should be a show stopper. Until the iPad3 shows up, the Fire will have the best screen in the industry.

Regards - John

P.S. Resolution (dots-per-inch) has nothing to do with screen size.

BTW: Pixels-per-inch is not seen much anymore, I think it's because of the various ways used to display colors. But who knows?

[taoofpu2]

Originally Posted by Jabby

The Fire with its 170dpi IPS screen should be a show stopper. Until the iPad3 shows up, the Fire will have the best screen in the industry.

My wife has a Nook Color it has 169dpi and has outstanding text resolution.
Kindle Fire owners are going love it!

[Jabby]

I had heard some rumors but wasn't sure what processor the Fire would be using. This link answers the question. I apologize if this is old hat but this is first confirmation I've seen of it.

http://www.cnx-software.com/2011/09/...ap4-processor/

The Texas Instruments OMAP4 is a swifty. Google's ICS "Nexus Prime" is said to be slated to run on the 1.5 GHz version of the OMAP4 platform.

Further proof that Amazon gets the most important things right.

Regards - John

If I didn't have rumors, I'd know nothing at all.

[emilikins]

Someone asked about the Kobo Vox. There are a couple of threads going on about it: here and here.

Screens resolution - I've said this a lot, either in this thread or another, but resolution does matter. I used to own the Coby 7024 and had not qualms about the e-reading on it, though I preferred e-Ink to it. My device suffered brain failure, so now I'm using my work tablet (Samsung Galaxy) which has a glorious screen (similar to the iPad), and now I think I prefer a good LCD to the Kobo WiFi wrapped up for Christmas. BUT, again, this is taste, and I never would have known what I was missing.

Like chessico, I've pre-ordered the 16GB A1, though I have been eyeballing the Kobo Vox, especially because there's a coupon code floating around to get $10 off if you order before Oct. 28: kobovox10. Get it sooner and for cheaper than the A1. I think Lenovo's would be an overall better device, but is it worth the extra $$? They're very similar when it comes down to it, though Vox has the AFFS screen (but you'll have to sideload Market, which in my experience isn't very stable). How much do I value instant Market and Netflix access over fiddling with a workaround? The Bluetooth is nice, but I have nothing of Bluetooth and don't know when I will.

To be A1 looks like I could stretch my legs out a bit more, though the size limitation keeps it from becoming a productivity device, imho. The Vox is cheaper, would basically fulfill all my needs with a few tricks, but Kobo doesn't always have the best support when it comes to malfunctions (so I've read on here). I want Kobo to do very well.

Amazon vs. everyone else
It comes down to if you want Papa Amazon looking over your shoulder or not. Great support service, I agree, and being locked into Amazon won't bother many people at all, and that is totally fine. There will be some casualties, I'm afraid, of those who don't self-educate on open Android vs. Amazon and will be disappointed. I don't think it'll be enough to hurt Amazon's sales or get them to open up. They're doing just fine with the e-readers. If Amazon started requiring high service fees with the tablet (get them in low, then clean them out), that would be out and out wrong. I don't see that happening, unless they have a complete philosophy overhaul. And then they'd just lose customers, because ...

... there are plenty of other tablet choices out there for those who don't want to be in Amazon's garden.

[Blossom]

Originally Posted by emilikins

Someone asked about the Kobo Vox. There are a couple of threads going on about it: here and here.

Screens resolution - I've said this a lot, either in this thread or another, but resolution does matter. I used to own the Coby 7024 and had not qualms about the e-reading on it, though I preferred e-Ink to it. My device suffered brain failure, so now I'm using my work tablet (Samsung Galaxy) which has a glorious screen (similar to the iPad), and now I think I prefer a good LCD to the Kobo WiFi wrapped up for Christmas. BUT, again, this is taste, and I never would have known what I was missing.

Like chessico, I've pre-ordered the 16GB A1, though I have been eyeballing the Kobo Vox, especially because there's a coupon code floating around to get $10 off if you order before Oct. 28: kobovox10. Get it sooner and for cheaper than the A1. I think Lenovo's would be an overall better device, but is it worth the extra $$? They're very similar when it comes down to it, though Vox has the AFFS screen (but you'll have to sideload Market, which in my experience isn't very stable). How much do I value instant Market and Netflix access over fiddling with a workaround? The Bluetooth is nice, but I have nothing of Bluetooth and don't know when I will.

To be A1 looks like I could stretch my legs out a bit more, though the size limitation keeps it from becoming a productivity device, imho. The Vox is cheaper, would basically fulfill all my needs with a few tricks, but Kobo doesn't always have the best support when it comes to malfunctions (so I've read on here). I want Kobo to do very well.

Amazon vs. everyone else
It comes down to if you want Papa Amazon looking over your shoulder or not. Great support service, I agree, and being locked into Amazon won't bother many people at all, and that is totally fine. There will be some casualties, I'm afraid, of those who don't self-educate on open Android vs. Amazon and will be disappointed. I don't think it'll be enough to hurt Amazon's sales or get them to open up. They're doing just fine with the e-readers. If Amazon started requiring high service fees with the tablet (get them in low, then clean them out), that would be out and out wrong. I don't see that happening, unless they have a complete philosophy overhaul. And then they'd just lose customers, because ...

... there are plenty of other tablet choices out there for those who don't want to be in Amazon's garden.

The Vox is really nice. I am getting a Coby 7022. I find the Market unstable even when it comes on a device. It's the newest update that messed the market up not only is it ugly hard to navigate and bloated but it never can get what needs updated right.